Valliant 28kW or Worcester 30kW

[whazza22]

Hi all

Debating between these 2 combi boilers to have installed in my house which is being re-plumbed.

The house is a 3 bed with lounge, kitchen, shower room (water main) and bathroom with 10.5kW electric shower.

Will the Valliant be man enough or should I go with the bigger Worcester? Obviously the Valliant is cheaper.

I am letting the property out to students so won't personally be living there.

Thanks

 

[shaky]

I would just go on your installers preferred boiler as he or she will know it very well.

 

[kris]

Hi there whazza22 and welcome to the forum, out of the 2 I'd take the worcester which has 5 years warranty, however the new Ideal vogue 32kw is cheaper than the two you mentioned and I'd say superior in looks and build quality and has 7 years warranty, really worth a look,

 

[whazza22]

Hi Kris, thanks. I was originally going to go with the Ideal 30kW but have heard alot of bad things about them. Have you experienced any problems with them?

 

[kris]

Remember ideal 30 kW isn't a boiler Ideal is the make and they have loads of different 30kw models I.e ideal icos , ideal logic ideal vogue, etc so the vogue is the newest one ,, I fitted one last week and I've gotta say I'm defo moving from worcester to ideal , I was well impressed with the design and software the vogue has,,

 

[whazza22]

Sorry it was an Ideal Logic+

 

[townfanjon]

Sorry it was an Ideal Logic+

Better than either a worcester or a valliant

 

[whazza22]

Better than either a worcester or a valliant

Really?

I thought Valliant and Worcester were the top dogs for combi boilers.

 

[townfanjon]

To be fair vaillant are good, dont and never have liked the worcester design. My favourite boiler , as many on here are sick of hearing ....viessmann

 

[Cardiff Plumber]

I have to agree with Kris, Ideal is a great product and 7 years extended warranty.

I used to be WB through and through but lost the love for them as they are overpriced.

The Valliant is cheaper than WB

Just from my experience.

 

[whazza22]

Ok thanks.

Brand aside, would a 28kW be sufficient for me?

 

[kris]

Worcester, vaillant , ideal , viessmanns , baxi are all great boiler manufacturers in there own right, it's purely down to our experiences we have with these brands, I've fitted a lot of boilers in 20 years , recently it's been mostly Worcesters and Ideals but in the past have been a wide variation of brands including , vaillant ,glowworm baxi , and even lower brands like basia,ariston ( supplied new by customer , not my choice )
The ideal logic plus is a decent boiler and comes with a 7 year warranty, Worcesters well they are known as a top dog and I was Worcester daft but I've seen big changes in there models but the cdi Classic boiler 29,34,38 or 42kw models is a great boiler, but with having fitted loads of them I have been swayed to the new ideal vogue,
What model is it your looking at ?

 

[kris]

if you put in a 28 kW boiler and your filling the sink for dishes, if someone opens the basin hot water tap in the bathroom then the 2 outlets will die considerably, for 28kw you'll receive around 10-11 litres per minute but if you go for a 34 kW then you'll get 14 litres per minute, and because theses boilers are modulating then it's not like your oversizing,

 

[whazza22]

Thanks Kris

The Ideal one I have been looking at is the Ideal Logic+ 30kW.

Alot cheaper than the Valliant Eco Pro 28kW and Worcester 30kW

 

[whazza22]

if you put in a 28 kW boiler and your filling the sink for dishes, if someone opens the basin hot water tap in the bathroom then the 2 outlets will die considerably, for 28kw you'll receive around 10-11 litres per minute but if you go for a 34 kW then you'll get 14 litres per minute, and because theses boilers are modulating then it's not like your oversizing,

Cheers.

May need to to for the larger one then

 

[stevetheplumber]

worcester have bought their good name in the past and now keep good ratings as they advertise a lot and loads get fitted by british gas and there subsideries which also sell service contracts along side so mostly people dont complain if its not costing them in one hit although they are paying a premium via the service contracts
the cdi range are a good boiler but the si and juniors are mediocre inmho

 

[stussy]

To be fair vaillant are good, dont and never have liked the worcester design. My favourite boiler , as many on here are sick of hearing ....viessmann

Viessmann for me too