nozzle removing tool and bearings

[CXR100]

anybody use the nozzle removing tool that hwos sell? is it any good for the price they ask for it? also I recently replaced a motor and oil pump in a riello burner. I took the old motor out and it spins ok and nice and free id say, but the old oil pump is very stiff and there was a lot of brownish rust around where the drive coupling sits . what would have caused this?? and can I replace a motor in a oil pump or only in a motor? and how do I go about this? thanks

 

[SimonG]

Forget the nozzle changing tool, pile of poop.

 

[Millsy 82]

16mm spanner does the job perfectly.

 

[CXR100]

ok guys, so how do I change a bearing? can it be done on the oil pump and motor?? thanks

 

[lame plumber]

once a fuel pump is knacked its knackered. re motor just whip off fan and use a bearing puller to change the 2 bearings.

 

[Dotty]

I need to get a new bearing puller. Mine's somewhere obscure and god knows where.....

Where's the best place to get a decent one for burner motors?

 

[CXR100]

I have also been looking for one croppe, anybody recommend a good one? I did my own pegler tap headgear puller once!!! still got it!!! anybody else done something similar??

 

[CXR100]

maby this one 450494 Mini Arm Bearing Puller Vice Car Truck Gear Press Pulley Tools 70*120MM | eBay

 

[bright spark]

For removing nozzles try using a saltus wrench 16mm. Scaffolders use this, you'll get a picture of 1 on wikipedia. It has a socket permanently fixed and the handle can move around to be attached at different angles. It can fit down between slot in diffuser and electrodes so ye don't have to remove them. Been using one 20 plus years. A little trick I picked up off d ould fella.

regarding motor bearings just feck motor out. Anytime I change burner motor just pick up new fan. Saves time trying to extract fan off old shaft. Makes life handy, and sure the customers paying.
only change bearings on air heaters. Can be a bit tricky.
was in 1 job one day with my brother. Air heater screaming, needed new bearings. Boss in factory said he needed price. My bro told him it tricky. Maybe 2 hrs, maybe the day. If he wanted price we'd have to price for day. Customer not happy. My brother said no problem. Packed up tool bag and said when walked out d door he wouldn't have to listen to screaming heater. Customer gave him the go ahead straight away.
Got a good laugh outa me brother and his sales technique that day.

 

[lame plumber]

still got my set of sykes pickavant pullers from when I got my first car. Was going to suggest getting those as they have lasted me some 30 plus years, then I looked p the price of them now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[MarkOil]

It can fit down between slot in diffuser and electrodes so ye don't have to remove them. Been using one 20 plus years. A little trick I picked up off d ould fella.

So for 20 plus years you've taken the blast tube off, cleaned around the nozzle holder, diffuser or electrodes or checked HT Leads for any damage? I'll stick with taking it all apart and making sure it's all clean and that nothing could cause a possible breakdown for the next 12months.
Agree with Millsy 82 - 16mm spanner.

 

[Dotty]

So for 20 plus years you've taken the blast tube off, cleaned around the nozzle holder, diffuser or electrodes or checked HT Leads for any damage? I'll stick with taking it all apart and making sure it's all clean and that nothing could cause a possible breakdown for the next 12months.
Agree with Millsy 82 - 16mm spanner.

There's burners where a 16mm socket is the only way to get nozzles out. Ever played with a riello dual fuel? Manufacturer states use a 16mm socket.

 

[lame plumber]

So for 20 plus years you've taken the blast tube off, cleaned around the nozzle holder, diffuser or electrodes or checked HT Leads for any damage? I'll stick with taking it all apart and making sure it's all clean and that nothing could cause a possible breakdown for the next 12months.
Agree with Millsy 82 - 16mm spanner.

wondered how a previous techie managed to change the nozzles on an older rayburn, seeing as the custard commented no one has ever taken that off before a few weeks back

 

[bright spark]

Ah lads whatever of course you have to strip it all down on a service, but all I'll say is if ye ever have to just check/change a faulty nozzle, it's a fast way of doing it.
Keep yer hair on.

 

[Best]

Motor bearings are a thing that can give trouble in a 2 year old burner motor, or last 20 years. So I would always replace the bearings. Some motors are fairly costly, but pair of bearings are only a fiver.
The way I look at it is the motor has to be removed & it's fan if a bearing is faulty, so another 2 minutes to replace both bearings is no big deal. I fix them all & have also replaced bearings on same motors several years later.
If we are all to take the attitude of saving a few minutes & bother when a tiny part goes wrong, then where does it all end - replacing the entire burner? Mad.