Boiler position

[nysk2008]

I'm hoping that some of you can help. Now can anyone let me know what the situation is with a new boiler install over a sink? I appreciate there may be issues regarding steam from hot water tap affecting boiler components but are there any regs / MI's that prohibit this kind of install or is it just good practice to install over the drainer etc where possible if required in that location.

Cheers

 

[SimonJohns]

Cant have a fixed electrical appliance within 600mm of a water outlet or wet area

I believe that is what is says in the electrical regs


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[kirkgas]

Cant have a fixed electrical appliance within 600mm of a water outlet or wet area

I believe that is what is says in the electrical regs


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is that a new reg re 600mm within a sink? as i had it clarified before that there wasnt a requirement for this as we used to see sockets above sinks all the time

 

[REDSAW]

Cant have a fixed electrical appliance within 600mm of a water outlet or wet area

I believe that is what is says in the electrical regs


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so a boilers an electrical appliance and not gas then?.
do we have to be 17ed to work on it, can a sparky take off the gas valve, can a gas fitter take off the pcb?, who's regs are to be followed?
and a macerator works with hamsters.lol.
see what you mean but common sense and bad choices prevail. if it is the only place a combi can be installed then in it goes.
you cant tell the customer 'no, you cant have central heating as there is no where to install it'.

 

[SimonJohns]

Well if you want to get really technical over it. Any electirical appliance wired in the kitchen should be done by a part p Reg installer

And yes technically a electrician can do some work on a boiler as they may be deemed competent to do so

And the appliance is an electrical appliance so we cannot just ignore or disregard the regs

Why do we cross bond. There's nothing in the GAS regs about it. This is totally a electrical Reg.


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[REDSAW]

do you have to be part p to put a plug top from the boiler in to the socket and why dont you need part p to fiddle with the components?.

 

[GrahamM]

Cant have a fixed electrical appliance within 600mm of a water outlet or wet area

I believe that is what is says in the electrical regs


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Unless it has changed recently, the recommendation was 300mm to the boilers electrical connection from sink or draining board.

Well if you want to get really technical over it. Any electirical appliance wired in the kitchen should be done by a part p Reg installer

And yes technically a electrician can do some work on a boiler as they may be deemed competent to do so

And the appliance is an electrical appliance so we cannot just ignore or disregard the regs

Why do we cross bond. There's nothing in the GAS regs about it. This is totally a electrical Reg.


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A Gas Engineer is deemed competent to connect a gas appliance to a spur and wire up zone valves etc.
Technically anyone can work on a boiler if they can prove competence to do so. Not only sparks.
I believe it states in the British Standards somewhere that the boiler must be fitted to such and such an electrical standard, so this is where the cross bonding comes from although it is no longer required with the modern electrics. Only seperate bonding of the gas pipe is still a requirement which is in the regs.

 

[AWheating]

it would probably be best to take advise from the boiler manufacture when unsure about these things. Most modern boilers have good electrical insulation to outside of the case unlike some of the tat made years ago with uninsulated connections hanging about.

 

[dontknowitall]

I'd never put a boiler over a sink for two main reasons:

1. Although unlikely, I wouldn't like to be washing up when the boiler exploded in my face.
2. I wouldn't enjoy the maintenance and drop something down the plug 'ole.

Perhaps it's not clear in the instructions as some common sense is required?

 

[SimonJohns]

Only thong I would fit over a sink is a single point water heater


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