Advice on water softener instalation please

[Tommc]

yes it does. put the stopcock where the compression straight is just above the old stopcock is. where the gate valve is put a comp tee to feed the softener, and don't forget the kitchen tap needs un-softened water. also your boiler may need un-softened water.

Cheer Steve, will crack on with that today

 

[Frelon]

Hi, you will find the current water regulations with regard to installing a water softener here. Lots of good info and advice (plus diagrams).

It seems that you have plenty of space for doing your plumbing mods, so well done.

Do not worry about your water softener and your boiler. Sadly there seem to be more old wives tales about this potential problem and no real facts, especially from the boiler manufacturers.

There was a thread on another forum which covered this in some detail. Have a look here.

If you plumb the dish washer to use your soft water you will save money by not having to buy salt for the dish washer! Oh and enjoy your soft water.

 

[kay-jay]

if the old stop tap doesnt work then isolate in the street/backstreet to allow the repositioning of a more suitable stoptap than the current gatevalve

 

[Tommc]

if the old stop tap doesnt work then isolate in the street/backstreet to allow the repositioning of a more suitable stoptap than the current gatevalve

thats exactly what i was planning kay-jay, been having a load of trouble getting the small pear shaped lid off the outside stopcock cover to isolate then stick the new stopcock on, need to wait till friday for essex and suffolk water to come out and sort it, also if any one can give me a bit of info on this, the overflow can go into the waste pipes under the sink, im also planning on putting the brine tank line into there rather than drill through the wall and into the drain, would this be ok to do ?

 

[RGII79]

waste is usually gravity on the ones i install and you also need overflow so make sure you have a fall from outlet to waste pipe

 

[Frelon]

The outlet from the brine regeneration is under pressure (and can to a certain extent go uphill), so this can be fed to the waste pipes under the sink which are normally used for dish washer waste.

However, your overflow is exactly that and should ideally go (downhill) through the wall to a drain outside. Under normal circumstances you will see nothing from this outlet, but in this position (outside) you can keep an eye on it. If there is any water coming from here then there is a malfunction with your softener.

Which model are you installing?

BTW if you do not have a convenient outlet under your sink for the brine regeneration you can think about one of these.

 

[Frelon]

.....and if any plumbers need more information regarding the fears of using water softeners with modern boilers, have a look here. There is no evidence to support the rumours.

 

[Tommc]

The outlet from the brine regeneration is under pressure (and can to a certain extent go uphill), so this can be fed to the waste pipes under the sink which are normally used for dish washer waste.

However, your overflow is exactly that and should ideally go (downhill) through the wall to a drain outside. Under normal circumstances you will see nothing from this outlet, but in this position (outside) you can keep an eye on it. If there is any water coming from here then there is a malfunction with your softener.

Which model are you installing?

BTW if you do not have a convenient outlet under your sink for the brine regeneration you can think about one of these.

It's a calsoft up to 8 one, not brand new and with the pipe for the brine missing so I got some washing machine pipe and will take the ends off and jubilee clip one to the softener and was planning on cutting a hole in the sink waste pipe and running to the outside drain that way as the dishwasher is already under the sink, I know there would be a higher chance of a blockage but don't know wether to give it a go or not, it will flow downhill all the way

 

[Tommc]

.....and if any plumbers need more information regarding the fears of using water softeners with modern boilers, have a look here. There is no evidence to support the rumours.

i wasnt sure as to what was best so i just bought some of that sentinel x100 to put in through one of the rads, am i best emptying the boiler and flushing the system through with a hose pipe connected to the outside tap and then adding this before filling up with the soft water , im sorry for all the questions gents