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You'll have trouble getting it signed off if you do it youself. Particulary if you use the existing flue liner. That might not be an issue for you but your insurance might not be valid - if your property burns down through any means (ie. Not caused by the stove) I would put money on the insurance company not paying out...

Insurance would be invalidated if not signed off but why the trouble getting it signed off in the first place?
 
I wouldn't sign someone-elses work off. Just like gas, you become responsible & ultimately liable. Even if you had builing control sign it off, who usually don't know what they're looking at, your insurance still might be invalid if not installed correctly. Saw one today that a customer installed himself - eventually managed to find someone to sign it off but there isn't a notice plate, so it doesn't comply.
 
Why the trouble getting it signed off in the first place?

So why not let everyone install their own gas boiler in as well, just flog them the boiler and walk away, that's what you're advocating.
 
So why not let everyone install their own gas boiler in as well, just flog them the boiler and walk away, that's what you're advocating.
The Gas Safe regulations are based on empirical data of safety incidents both in UK and elsewhere. Hence the introduction of Landlords Safety Checks etc. By the same process a regulation requiring annual inspections of owner/occupied properties was deemed unnecessary. Equating Log Burners with Gas Boilers is unhelpful.
 
The Gas Safe regulations are based on empirical data of safety incidents both in UK and elsewhere. Hence the introduction of Landlords Safety Checks etc. By the same process a regulation requiring annual inspections of owner/occupied properties was deemed unnecessary. Equating Log Burners with Gas Boilers is unhelpful.

People have still died. More will as they become more prolific. Then they will be regulated much like gas....
 
To be honest, solid fuel appliances scare me far more than gas ones do. Primarily because, despite however you want to spin it, it's an uncontrolled heat source.

I can shut down and open a gas boiler in 30 minutes from hot, same with oil.

Biomass I'd be looking at minimum of a day before I could get inside it.
And that's a planned shut down
 
I don't think an insurer could wiggle out of the payment by trying to use a non compliant controlled service installation as a loop hole to avoid writing the check when the fire was started by some other means. Malicious, smoking, cooking, unguarded fire etc etc for example.
 
Nothing uncontrolled about stoves. When I shut down the air damper on my stove it goes into slumber very quickly.
I'm currently running on a genny as the storm knocked out the mains electric.
The pump has just stopped so the heat leak rad will take the excess as I'm about to shut off the genny supply.
 
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