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scott_d said:
Very neat.
Is it an 825?
Are the 22mm capped pipes for power flushing?
It doesn’t look like 300mm to the door so yes a plume kit is probably needed.
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Hi Scott,
Yes it is a 825. The capped 22mm ends are for future if somebody doesn't have the adapter so he has got an option to flush from without the need to cut into the pipework. It's not really 300mm so I will return and get the plume connected. I had one with me but the bend was missing for the terminal.

I'm happy you like that one.
 
Nice work, but yes on the plume kit. Too close to the door opening and an internal corner.

One more thing, seems as your going back, for the sake of your reputation please change that hideous black clip for a white one :eek::rolleyes::D:p
 
Craig Watson said:
Nice work, but yes on the plume kit. Too close to the door opening and an internal corner.

One more thing, seems as your going back, for the sake of your reputation please change that hideous black clip for a white one :eek::rolleyes::D:p
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Totally agree with you I run out and it was late so I had to use what I had :) but much appreciated for the honesty
 
Matchless.plumb said:
Hi Scott,
Yes it is a 825. The capped 22mm ends are for future if somebody doesn't have the adapter so he has got an option to flush from without the need to cut into the pipework. It's not really 300mm so I will return and get the plume connected. I had one with me but the bend was missing for the terminal.

I'm happy you like that one.
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Seems a bit over the top
Matchless.plumb said:
Hi Scott,
Yes it is a 825. The capped 22mm ends are for future if somebody doesn't have the adapter so he has got an option to flush from without the need to cut into the pipework. It's not really 300mm so I will return and get the plume connected. I had one with me but the bend was missing for the terminal.

I'm happy you like that one.
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The tees sound like a lot of time and money for fittings for somebody else’s benefit!
 
scott_d said:
Seems a bit over the top

The tees sound like a lot of time and money for fittings for somebody else’s benefit!
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I actually use the connections too when I do an install as I do not think it's really good to remove a rad to flush. I also haven't got yet the a spirotech adapter so it's fine:) don't think it's much over the top but beneficial
 
bogrodder said:
Actually I do exactly the same thing and have done for decades. Finally we have common ground on;)
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Common ground sound good :)
There are still things I would do better but sometimes the price won't allow for all items. I'd install some lever valves below the filter, deaerator and of course below the scale reducer just for the sake of service purposes.
 
After talking to you all I added the plume kit and got rid of the black plastic clips:)
Thanks for all the opinions and advises again.

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bogrodder said:
Lovely neat install.. well done

The only negative thing is

Press fit:(
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Thank you very much. I love crimping as it is faster, cleaner and eliminates safety hazards. I can also do my works when water is dripping and if I have an issue with turning water off I can also cut live and put a crimping valve on. But as you know everyone likes different things.
 
Everything has its place. I use a combination of soldered and crimping now. Same as using plastic, not my first choice but it has a place
 
It's just the way you are trained over the years. I used to solder a little when I started working in UK but i went back to crimping which is what I like even though it's more expensive. I definitely do like rushing my works though as I am not happy in the end with the results. I think it would be fun to have a little race though;)
 
king of pipes said:
Nice install Ron would have renewed the switch spur though bud it got to last another 10years . Kop
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Thank you KOP... that’s actually true though. It’s not a perfect install then. Next time, I will be more in detail and try not leaving anything to point out. I love when other engineers give honest reviews. I am not afraid of perfection :) I will never reach it but I can reach always a higher level.

Thanks a lot for your input and giving more motivation
 
couple of things

gas 1/2 to 22mm tee isnt gas rated
flue needs another clip on it
mac nrv isnt pressure rated and not safe for boilers only overflow
how come no lagging?
 
ShaunCorbs said:
couple of things

gas 1/2 to 22mm tee isnt gas rated
flue needs another clip on it
mac nrv isnt pressure rated and not safe for boilers only overflow
how come no lagging?
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Appreciate your concern but don't see any problem with the gas pipe whatsoever. 22mm to 15mm very standard. Vailla r has 15mm connection which means I always reduce below the boiler. Flow needs another clip? For 1m of flue? I think that's a little over the top though. Everything is safe and secure installed. What you mean with the mac? How is that not safe ? Nothing is going to happen and if the prv opens it's going safely into the waste pipe. No lagging due to price cant do all for peanuts. Not many people are committed to pay for all materials.

Is there any positive word from you rather than just pointing out? Perhaps you show some of your installs. I don't mind and appreciate your opinion as mentioned above. But give also some positive feedback that would be much appreciated too.

I don't think I did anything wrong. I'm happy with my boiler swap
 
Matchless.plumb said:
Appreciate your concern but don't see any problem with the gas pipe whatsoever. 22mm to 15mm very standard. Vailla r has 15mm connection which means I always reduce below the boiler. Flow needs another clip? For 1m of flue? I think that's a little over the top though. Everything is safe and secure installed. What you mean with the mac? How is that not safe ? Nothing is going to happen and if the prv opens it's going safely into the waste pipe. No lagging due to price cant do all for peanuts. Not many people are committed to pay for all materials.

Is there any positive word from you rather than just pointing out? Perhaps you show some of your installs. I don't mind and appreciate your opinion as mentioned above. But give also some positive feedback that would be much appreciated too.

I don't think I did anything wrong. I'm happy with my boiler swap
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The test point tee not rated for gas
Every 1m or change in direction or a joint
Mac nrv isn’t rated for pressure and if prv opens it will split the nrv as there designed for no pressure / gravity
Lagging is a must for external installs
 
scott_d said:
What wrong with the tee?
Assuming it gas gas o-rings
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No gas markings and tee not suitable because it’s not labelled as no one knows later if someone’s changed the orings etc so will be cut out as it will be classed as not suitable

And gas safe could get involved
 
ShaunCorbs said:
No gas markings and tee not suitable because it’s not labelled as no one knows later if someone’s changed the orings etc so will be cut out as it will be classed as not suitable

And gas safe could get involved
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You cant see much the markings due to the discolouration. Everything is gas rated with the right o rings. Are the x press fittings rated for 630c to withstand 30min ? Viega fittings are and therefore I use those as they are the best fittings you can get.

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Harvest Fields said:
This one I believe mate?

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That is gas safe with the right yellow o rings which are highlighted at the site of the fittings. It has a yellow small dot. But you surely know if you swap the o rings too you can use any fitting song you?

Harvest I know what hes on about but does he also support people without pointing things out? Never seen him giving some props to others ... he must be a very unhappy person ;)
 
Dont take it to heart Ron our Shaunie will always find something mate he doesn't mean it in a malicious way just has a eye for the slightest imperfection , as long as your happy with your work and abide by the regs and manufacturers instructions then your all good. Cheers kop
 
king of pipes said:
Dont take it to heart Ron our Shaunie will always find something mate he doesn't mean it in a malicious way just has a eye for the slightest imperfection , as long as your happy with your work and abide by the regs and manufacturers instructions then your all good. Cheers kop
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I'm not but don't get me wrong though wouldn't it be better to props sometimes some other engineers? It doesn't come across really good either just point out. If I wanted I could also find stuff which should be changed or amended. However, I'm very happy with the works. I would also change a few things but sometimes the quote doesn't allow for doing better works as I am not going to pay from my own pocket.
 
Matchless.plumb said:
I'm not but don't get me wrong though wouldn't it be better to props sometimes some other engineers? It doesn't come across really good either just point out. If I wanted I could also find stuff which should be changed or amended. However, I'm very happy with the works. I would also change a few things but sometimes the quote doesn't allow for doing better works as I am not going to pay from my own pocket.
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But you’ve done the whole install in press fit mate?? That’s about 10 times the price compared to an end feed fitting?
 
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