press or other?

[CXR100]

got a few domestic jobs on now to do after work , not being on site until 5:30pm and leaving 10pm ish I don't get much done in an evening , one is a holiday apartment that needs the ch re piping and the hot + cold , new bathroom ect , its not a big job , but then you only have 4ish hours there every evening its not going to move on as fast as I would like it to , the walls are being battened out, and I need to clip pipes onto the brick behind with nail ins . I only ever use copper , but most other guys around here are plastic more and more , so im thinking why not join them , I suppose id be quicker aswell . but I don't trust push fit, has anybody tried the press fittings? im seriously thinking of going down that route, but the cost is putting me right off, does anybody buy them and use them ? how much for example is a 15mm elbow? are they less bulky than push fit? would I be better off using tectite push fit? can I crimp a plastic pipe one end of an elbow and copper the other to come up to rads ? I know if I start I copper ill be there for weeks , and summer approaching and a licensed fishing boat sitting in the shed ...... ive got better things to do after work than soldering !!!!

 

[tamz]

Unless you do big stuff or have little to no stock and want to spend a lot of money on tooling or want ot be in the "in" crowd, stick with endfeeds or use plastic. Press has no real advantages on domestic stuff no matter what they spout on facebook.
I was once in the ranks of "i'm a real plumber i don't use plastic" but because of the amount of numpties running around in our game now who price on a wage i have to cut costs somewhere.
Plastic isn't any cheaper than copper to buy when you take in the cost of fittings but it is a lot quicker to fit.
Don't put joints behind walls where possible and pressure test (wet) everything to 16 bar before it is covered.

 

[hammers4spanner]

Im the same can't see any benefits of press fit in someones home.Why spend out a grand on the tools as a domestic plumber?Would rather spend that on the summer holiday with the family.The only real big bonus of press fit is that its clean no black hands .

Big downside is that working with it in confined spaces or if you bodge your crimp then its cut it out job.
Just use tectite if you want the copper route quick and easy.

 

[tolly]

Have a look at buteline plastic.

 

[stani]

It's too thin, it will never take the pressure, someone will put a nail through it, I will never use it, it's a passing fad.
Not plastic.
Copper pipe when it was introduced to replace lead,

If it's in the wall no one sees it, if it visible nothing beats copper, but plastic makes life easy.
Or we could go back to "proper plumbing" and start hauling bloody heavy rolls of 10lb lead around, preparing parrafin blow lamps etc.

 

[townfanjon]

I nearly went "press" before Christmas, good points and bad , they do occasionaly leak dont think they dont, I have used press and yes its quick and clean , but in general plumbing with no available space the fittings are too big , and getting the machine in is impossible. If you just install boilers " press " is the way IMO.
Long live my superfire torch , I wont be investing and I am out !!!!

 

[ShaunCorbs]

It's too thin, it will never take the pressure, someone will put a nail through it, I will never use it, it's a passing fad.
Not plastic.
Copper pipe when it was introduced to replace lead,

If it's in the wall no one sees it, if it visible nothing beats copper, but plastic makes life easy.
Or we could go back to "proper plumbing" and start hauling bloody heavy rolls of 10lb lead around, preparing parrafin blow lamps etc.

steel and stocks and dies for the win

 

[Best]

It's too thin, it will never take the pressure, someone will put a nail through it, I will never use it, it's a passing fad.
Not plastic.
Copper pipe when it was introduced to replace lead,

If it's in the wall no one sees it, if it visible nothing beats copper, but plastic makes life easy.
Or we could go back to "proper plumbing" and start hauling bloody heavy rolls of 10lb lead around, preparing parrafin blow lamps etc.

But the change from lead to copper was an improvement overall.
Going from copper to plastic on some work is second best. I rarely heard of fittings coming of pipes and flooding buildings, until plastic push fit appeared

 

[ShaunCorbs]

But the change from lead to copper was an improvement overall.
Going from copper to plastic on some work is second best. I rarely heard of fittings coming of pipes and flooding buildings, until plastic push fit appeared

unless there wernt soldered and just the flux holding them

 

[stani]

But the change from lead to copper was an improvement overall.
Going from copper to plastic on some work is second best. I rarely heard of fittings coming of pipes and flooding buildings, until plastic push fit appeared

A lot of these were because the fittings hadn't been installed correctly, I.e. Not pushed in twice. Fortunately we now have the option of either copper or plastic, Both have their place in the 21st century. And Mlcp and steel.......