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Hi, I am probably your worst knightmare, I DIYER with little knowlege, trying to do things himself.

The problem that I have is that I none of my radiators to the downstairs are working.

I have been fitting out a new bathroom, repositioned bath, sink and toilet, all successfully.
The weekend just gone, I partially drained the cental heating system, and T-ed into the hot and cold rad feed for my towel warmer and under floor heating. The underfloor heating is not in yet.

As I am a bit tight and had not long cleaned and added Inhubator to the sytem, I had collected the water, and poured it back into the expansion tank. Bleed the radiators, but found that the downstairs radiators were still cold. The towel warmer was working fine.

I have since tried turning off the working radiators to force the cold ones into life - no luck
I have checked the pump, athough a little noisey currently, was spinning freely, and I jabbed my screwdriver in, and was able to stop it on the slow setting. I assume fine.
I have now fully drained the system, (collected) and refilled (poured back into the expansion tank), bleed radiators, starting at the ground floor, furthest away, only to find that I have now lost one of the upstairs radiators, and the towel warmer, which is up high on the wall.

I am thinking blockage, or there is a very very very slim chance, something that has been playing on my mind, that I may have connected the hot feed to the cold feed when adding the new connections !

The system is a 1980's construction, vented with expansion tank in the loft, hot water cylinder in the airing cupboard, and 1980's baxi gas boiler. Oh yes original skirting board radiators to the living and dining room. - Thy are a bit poor, and as far as I am aware I cannot bleed them. - next job on the list fit 2 large vert rads in living room - Its North facing, huge window and never seems to get warm enough.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, before I throw away my plumbers hat, and call in a professional.

Jim20
 
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Steady on.
If you read the posts earlier you would know that I resolved the initial problem on my own with no help, working logically through the options.
My Central Heating system is all working fine !
Yes I have made a couple of minor errors along the way, but nothing major.
The re-use of the water, maybe stupid, but it had only been in the system a couple of months prior to me cleaning and adding inhibator.
The using of flexis, well as I said it should be made clearer. They state weather they can be used for drinking water or not, so surely, an extra line stating not to be used in CH Systems wouldn't be too much.

And your statement "No matter how many times, we've advised you about getting a professional in" - You advised me once. Somebody else advised to check for an airlock and then call for a professional.
 
You've done it wrong, you've been told, you choose to ignore. Bye bye.

Hope you're not paying house insurance, cos once those flexis go they'll not pay out.
 
I am at a loss as to why you two feel the need for these posts.
I am righting my wrongs and I am thankful for the advice. I never said otherwise.
 
Jim20 said:
Steady on.
If you read the posts earlier you would know that I resolved the initial problem on my own with no help, working logically through the options.
My Central Heating system is all working fine !
Yes I have made a couple of minor errors along the way, but nothing major.
The re-use of the water, maybe stupid, but it had only been in the system a couple of months prior to me cleaning and adding inhibator.
The using of flexis, well as I said it should be made clearer. They state weather they can be used for drinking water or not, so surely, an extra line stating not to be used in CH Systems wouldn't be too much.

And your statement "No matter how many times, we've advised you about getting a professional in" - You advised me once. Somebody else advised to check for an airlock and then call for a professional.
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JG state whether a fitting is suitable or not for central heating systems - they've got a red (hot) / blue (cold) colour code system too.

John Guest Speedfit - The World Leader in Push-fit Fittings, Pipe and Plastic Plumbing Systems - 15 & 22mm White PVC Hoses

Flexible pipes with very hot water are prone to kinking.

If you are going to use a flexi on a cold fitting stick with JG - long unbranded flexis are now available for a couple of pounds, which means they will have been manufactured for a few pence, so little wonder if they are unreliable.

At least you've got the problems sorted and will know what to do next time.
 
Jim20, please please PLEASE show pictures!!!

I want to see exactly how youve done everything, you've done ALOT wrong where it is and will damage your house such as the flexi's, they will fail and then pull down your ceilings and other issues!

Never have i seen a flexi on a CH i want to see ittttt
 
... and your wives will leave you, and your camels will go lame ... you have bought a curse upon your house ... please call a plumber asap to exorcise these demons by the use of fire and hot copper !!!

and so it came to pass... to be continued.
 
get rid of the flexi's and get some copper involved, if your not confedent with using copper then use plastic and some push fit fittings, just make sure you get them in full slip and use inserts. that will be alot better than the flexi's.
 
Hay guys thanks.
I took heed of the first warning with the Flexi's. I am in the process of soldering copper replacements. It is just a little awkward as I have to get from under the floor, up under the bath and then into the airing cupboard. Hence the initial thought of flexis.

I don't why you all felt I didn't listen. I came to your website for advice, you guys are the professionals

Koogatubac - Its all fine. I have Copper pipe running down the back of the Airing Cupboard, which connects to the radiator. I then have the main radiator flow and return, which I have solderd 'T' connections in. Then copper pipe under the floor to underneath the bath. At this point I had the Flexi's to get me from under the bath, accross and then up into the airing cupboard, to connect to the copper pipe. Thats all.
 
No we wont ridicule pictures. If your not uploading pics then it just goes to show you dont have pride in your work? We all upload our work pictures. If you put it in your house especially you must be proud?

Upload some pictures plzzzz!! :)
 
There are certain words that are best avoided on this site, unfortunately you used three of them in one sentence: "DIY ... Flexi ... and Saving money!"

Pity they don't come up in red automatically!

Decanting the system water didn't help either - very original though!

The antidote is: "What you having?"

Anyway, now you've survived your babtism by fire you know what NOT to say! :nono:

Things should get better from now on :yes:
 
If I was paying £15 a bottle (retail) for conditioner and I had to drain down, I would also be tempted to save my conditioned water, then I would carefully filter it and put it back in, cleaner than it came out but still conditioned.
 
Why not just put it in when youve got it sorted?
 
I feel sorry for the people that live with you that will have to live through the horror when all of this goes **** up.
 
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I feel sorry for the people that live with you that will have to live through the horror when all of this goes **** up.
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Hope he doesn't live in an upstairs flat, with nice downstairs neighbours.

For every tightfisted diy'er out to scrimp on the pennies, another decent tradesman joins the never ending unemployment queue through lack of work.
 
I find it quite frustrating. How much would we charge someone to put in a towel rail? Half a day labour? So to save himself paying a plumber for half a days work, he's cost himself no end of time posting on a plumbing forum trying to clear up the mess he need not have caused. And in time, only more misery and expense will pour from his decisions.

If I want a new socket in my house, I get an electrician. Why? I've got a good idea how to put a socket in. I pay a guy because he could put a socket in, properly, in his sleep.
 
Tap dancer said:
If I was paying £15 a bottle (retail) for conditioner and I had to drain down, I would also be tempted to save my conditioned water, then I would carefully filter it and put it back in, cleaner than it came out but still conditioned.
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This is in no mean a dig at you but is your time worth so little when I do work in my house (Dont do it very often typical tradesman) I would rather get it over and done with so I can get on with what I want to (Drinking beer and kayaking) so £15 to save me 1/2-1hour is money well spent.
 
why does this post have one of the largest topical post counts???????
 
I think someone who has spun such a long thread and caught so many in his web should be recognised for his hard work, or be called jim spider20.
 
Koogatubac said:
Becus its hilarious, puttin all his old CH water in, using flexis on CH hahaaa!!
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Yes it's hilarious but up to a point. People googling for an answer might pop up on this forum, read this bilge and think we're all a bad joke, especially with the huge amount of replies to it.
 
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