central heating pump replacement

[fluidthegreat]

He pump has gone and needs replacing. It has a celsia tf110 230v-50hz. What grundfos would be replace this please. Ive seen grundfos ups 15-60 pump 96281473.

Thanks

 

[Whyme]

grundfos all the way for me regardless of price, tbh im looking forward to the domestic catching up with whats been cracking off in the comercial sector (for a v long time).

 

[tamz]

You can not install this type of pump any more ! Under the euro pump directive you should use an energy efficient type such a the Alpha L & you would be mad not to the running costs are a lot lower than the old 15/60 ups

You can Chris if you can continue to get them. There is so much misinformation around it is little wonder people, even pros get confused.

In the real world Mrs Noheat wants it fixed.
She rings you for a price. You say sure a new A rated pump that will save you 20p a week on your leccie, supplied and fitted for £200
She rings the next guy who says no probs i'll fit you a pump (any pump, myson, screwfix shyte) for £150.
She takes the £150 offer and he got the job and made about £50 more than you would have at your £200 asking price. Her heating is working and she couldn't care less about 20p a week and if it breaks down again 2 years later such is life.
That is the reality i'm afraid, no matter what some bureaucrat says must be done to save the planet if indeed it really needs saving.
Devils advocate :smile:

 

[Roger Welton]

Sadly Tamz is (as always!) quite right

 

[chris watkins]

You can Chris if you can continue to get them. There is so much misinformation around it is little wonder people, even pros get confused.

In the real world Mrs Noheat wants it fixed.
She rings you for a price. You say sure a new A rated pump that will save you 20p a week on your leccie, supplied and fitted for £200
She rings the next guy who says no probs i'll fit you a pump (any pump, myson, screwfix shyte) for £150.
She takes the £150 offer and he got the job and made about £50 more than you would have at your £200 asking price. Her heating is working and she couldn't care less about 20p a week and if it breaks down again 2 years later such is life.
That is the reality i'm afraid, no matter what some bureaucrat says must be done to save the planet if indeed it really needs saving.
Devils advocate :smile:

All true I know tamz but more to them than just electrical savings if people would just spend the time & have a look.
Sometimes it not all about the money, sometime we should just try to do the right thing, as you well know.
China will supply copy of 15/50 I am sure & sell it cheaper, so how long do we want to keep fitting them for ? The race to the bottom is a quick & potentially devastating.

 

[fluidthegreat]

Im looking for a cheap replacement to get some hot water. Ive seen a flomasta on screwfix for £40 Flomasta Central Heating Pump | NoLinkingToThis would this be ok to replace the celsia multi head ip42 230-50? Thank for the help guys

 

[plumber0808]

Yes Looks like it will do the job

 

[joni os]

tamz you are so spot on it needs repeating every week

 

[chris watkins]

Giving our ages away Chris!

I think everyone knows I am an old bar-steward by now, Mr C

tamz you are so spot on it needs repeating every week

Sorry but what needs repeating ? & why every week.

 

[dancinplumba]

What tamz Said

 

[chris watkins]

You can Chris if you can continue to get them. There is so much misinformation around it is little wonder people, even pros get confused.

That is the reality i'm afraid, no matter what some bureaucrat says must be done to save the planet if indeed it really needs saving.
Devils advocate :smile:

So what did he say ?

I seem to remember the same sort of conversations taking place over old style (non condensing) gas & oil boilers & who is still installs them?
How about TRV's the list goes on, always ends up the same in the end the industry takes it onboard eventually there just has to be the bitching first, even when with a little investigation it is quite clear it is the right thing to do.
I suppose it is part of human nature that some just don't like change of any sort.

 

[TBServices]

So what did he say ?

I seem to remember the same sort of conversations taking place over old style (non condensing) gas & oil boilers & who is still installs them.
How about TRV's the list goes on, always ends up the same in the end the industry takes it onboard eventually there just has to be the bitching first, even when with a little investigation it is quite clear it is the right thing to do.
I suppose it is part of human nature that some just don't like change of any sort.

For good reason Chris. Early condensing boilers - rubbish, trvs - rubbish, and even if you get non rubbish ones, the customers don't know how to use them, modulating pumps are just another hunk of rubbish forced upon us by people who have no experience of their workings.

80 year old Agnes with 30 year old radiators and a ideal Mexico, doesn't want a a HE pump, and she won't benefit from it.

 

[chris watkins]

For good reason Chris. Early condensing boilers - rubbish, trvs - rubbish, and even if you get non rubbish ones, the customers don't know how to use them, modulating pumps are just another hunk of rubbish forced upon us by people who have no experience of their workings.

80 year old Agnes with 30 year old radiators and a ideal Mexico, doesn't want a a HE pump, and she won't benefit from it.

Oh great, working on that principle then I am sitting around my open log fire, in my great hall (did allow myself the luxury or a roof over my head) covered in soot cos em new fangled chimneys don't work anyway & I know of at least two that fell down after being built !!!!!
Start living in the future not the past. TB

 

[bewsh]

I'm guessing you'll still be able to get the old style pumps for combis though? I can't imagine the new energy efficient ones will fit in to most combis!

 

[tamz]

I'm not against the new pumps and have fitted them but common sense has to be used. When the old heads are phased out you can guarantee the majority won't be set right anyway. It is bad enough now when most out there can't read a pump graph and bung everything on speed 3 (usually causing system problems) just to be sure it works. You will probably find most Alphas will be set to CP2 just to be sure it works

I'm guessing you'll still be able to get the old style pumps for combis though? I can't imagine the new energy efficient ones will fit in to most combis!

You would fit one of the new UPS2 pumps. Same sized pump head with a lower wattage.

Btw i was out and swapped a pump head this morning. Bog std 15/50 replacement.

 

[joni os]

Selling a customer what he wants and he is happy, Telling a customer what he needs and he goes elsewhere.