Going gas safe

[tommy1712]

Hi My new year resolution is to get my gas safe
i retrained after many unhappy years and done a c&g level 2 and love my work now, love being self employed love the respect from customers and love the job satisfaction
I am in 2 minds to just give the training center my money for my gas course like in the next few days or should I squeeze in the c&g level 3 first?
i currently don't touch electrics at all but I do have a good understanding of them, I assume the gas safe course will not cover the valves, stats and programmers side of it but will the level 3.
Will I need a full part p to be able to install these and fit the boiler electrics as £2200 and a 20 day course seems a tad excessive just to do this I am not wanting to rewire a house lol
i like what I am doing at the moment but I just want to make the next step, is there anything i am missing, I guess my insurance will have to be changed
any advice welcomed

 

[Masood]

Some level 3 courses cover gas training as well as controls so I would recommend going that way.

 

[IDCHAPPY]

I'll be honest and say go for the level 3 first, an extra year training and understanding of systems would be beneficial for doing your gas stuff.
Have you got an engineer lined up to shadow during the gas training?
It's not a 6 weeks and you're gas safe course is it?

 

[IDCHAPPY]

Ninja'd by Mas

 

[tommy1712]

I have got a couple local engineers that have said they will help with my portfolio but we will have to see when the time comes as I will be taking jobs from then in the end. If not the training center have there own engineers to go out with at a price of cause.
Will I need to get a part p? I am getting mixed answers

 

[mooey]

I have got a couple local engineers that have said they will help with my portfolio but we will have to see when the time comes as I will be taking jobs from then in the end. If not the training center have there own engineers to go out with at a price of cause.
Will I need to get a part p? I am getting mixed answers

i would nt bother doing the level 3 just try and get some experience with a gas safe engineer than got to an acs centre do 4 days training bingo job done. i paid 1250 for ccn1 ckr1 cen1 and 4 day s training.you do have to join gas safe after which know one tells you and thats a cool 400 quid.it s all just one big rip off.but if you want to do it legally thats what you have got to do

 

[IDCHAPPY]

How many years have you been in the industry?
I'd recommend a minimum of 5 before becoming GSR... TBH

 

[kris]

10000% do your level 3 first and get your plumbing to tip top level then move onto your gas, that's how most apprenticeships are done,
im not a believer in fastback courses as the knowledge learned doesn't come close but I take my hat off to those like yourself who try to better yourselves by doing them , so good luck, and regarding part p , there's not much gas engineers who have this , just the odd few,

 

[SimonG]

i would nt bother doing the level 3 just try and get some experience with a gas safe engineer than got to an acs centre do 4 days training bingo job done. i paid 1250 for ccn1 ckr1 cen1 and 4 day s training.you do have to join gas safe after which know one tells you and thats a cool 400 quid.it s all just one big rip off.but if you want to do it legally thats what you have got to do

So you are gas safe registered?

Tommy, i would be listening to the responders with the yellow badge at the side of their names. As for part p, just take it one step at a time.

Good luck.

 

[downthesouth]

i would nt bother doing the level 3 just try and get some experience with a gas safe engineer than got to an acs centre do 4 days training bingo job done. i paid 1250 for ccn1 ckr1 cen1 and 4 day s training.you do have to join gas safe after which know one tells you and thats a cool 400 quid.it s all just one big rip off.but if you want to do it legally thats what you have got to do

Yep that echos how I did it. Nvq3 sees like a lot of is in ccn1 anyway. If you are competent enough you should be ok to go straight into Acs. Get with a time served engineer, whom is close to retirement to get the most out of it. I was lucky that I learnt it off the old man.

 

[kris]

Ok the gas is the gas but the level 3 will give you a greater insight to heating systems design and specification, like previously mentioned best to walk before running, but that's just my humble opinion,

 

[jim1916woo]

Hi guys, I done my plumbing lvl3 last year that covered some gas, went back this year for the C&G gas utillisation course, with 20 exams to do just done the legislation exam. then we have combustion unsafe sits ventilation,Tightness Testing & pipework, Flues,cpa1 health & safety & electrics, Meters lpg, & then Isa 1 gas safety & Isa 12 lpg, now i know why you lads brick it when it comes ACS exam comes around. )

 

[tommy1712]

Thanks for the advice, nvq is unfortunately impossible for me as I am self employed and WILL ONLY EVER be self employed as a plumber/tiler for me it's also a lifestyle choice as I spent years as a sales consultant and s good one at that but it's just not me. I did this to better my life and I have and I love my work, agreed I am not as experienced as some this is true. I have a very good gs engineer on the end of the phone if I ever need him (what I haven't yet) if I have a problem or something tricky just take my time and think logically. I get enough work doing general plumbing and tiling but I would like a bit of the cream

From the way I understand it you can just walk in off the street and do a gas safe course (of cause u will not be able to even bend a pipe so u will never pass section 1)
from what I understood u don't need any qualifications.
The reason for wanting level 3 is I am serious about my job my career and my company, it's not a get rich scheme to me.
I am proud to call myself a plumber and I do a good job

 

[kris]

I'm not sure about coming off the street straight into course, I know you need to employed serving your time or working alongside a competent gas engineer to get into the technical colleges near me, my sparky mate wanted to do gas and application was refused because of this reason,

 

[kris]

Good to see you keen mate and good luck with it, there are loads of guys ( not meaning you ) in similar circumstances as u which try the gas as a get rich quick scheme and it's the customers who get the bad deal, but if your happy at work then that's half the battle and your customers will get a good tradesman,