Would you shop someone working at weekends and not declaring tax?

[cr0ft]

Wondered what you guys would do. A local person I've heard of is working a Mon-Fri job and working in holidays etc at really cheap rates. I am 99% sure they are not declaring tax and undercutting local tradesmen for this reason.

Obviously you can't be 100% sure but what would you guys do in this situation?

 

[mcniven]

R u serious?

 

[mfgs]

Leave him to it, it has nothing to do with you.

 

[CES]

Forget it, once you start down that route you will forever be watching your back.

 

[PlumbBobBob]

i agree leave him alone, because it will get out where the tip came from. not from here i hasten to add.

 

[secret squirrel]

Wondered what you guys would do. A local person I've heard of is working a Mon-Fri job and working in holidays etc at really cheap rates. I am 99% sure they are not declaring tax and undercutting local tradesmen for this reason.

Obviously you can't be 100% sure but what would you guys do in this situation?

I totally see where your coming from, why should we have the hassel and not him. I'd leave him be though, its karma, I'm sure we put everything through the books!

HOWEVER, if he were claiming benefits, WHOLE different matter!

All he's trying to do is earn a bit extra here and there.

 

[Destroyer2813]

Im pretty sure EVERYBODY has done it in the past when working for firms and doing a bit on the side

 

[kirkgas]

Wondered what you guys would do. A local person I've heard of is working a Mon-Fri job and working in holidays etc at really cheap rates. I am 99% sure they are not declaring tax and undercutting local tradesmen for this reason.

Obviously you can't be 100% sure but what would you guys do in this situation?

how many people who are time served and employee can hold their hand up and say they have NEVER done a cash job (homer to us up here) if you have never done that then report them if you want, im a tax thief not a hypocrite

 

[Hybrid]

The tax man would love to shaft me so i'm not going to do him a favour and do his work for him.

 

[SimonG]

I tend to concentrate on what I'm doing and don't really give a stuff what the competition is doing. Let em get on.

 

[Mike Jackson]

Isn't there a confidante phone line that you can use to grass people up? It's not the diddling the tax man it's the undercutting genuine tradespeople that pees me off. It's likely the guy is working without any PL insurance if he's doing foreigners.

When I was employed I refused to do any work on the side because I didn't have my own gas safe or insurance.

 

[tamz]

We have all done it. It is nothing new. When i was employed (a long time ago) i made as much at nights and weekends than i did working monday to friday, many of them passed to me by the company i worked for as it was a way to make me take responsibility for what i did in my own time and personally face the consequences of when it went wrong. It made you a better tradesman.
The difference from then and now is these were mostly the jobs the firms didn't want as they were too busy doing other stuff. Now there are 1000's of guys started up trying to make a living with the dross no one wanted. Shopping someone doesn't stop it and never will.

 

[kirkgas]

Isn't there a confidante phone line that you can use to grass people up? It's not the diddling the tax man it's the undercutting genuine tradespeople that pees me off. It's likely the guy is working without any PL insurance if he's doing foreigners.

When I was employed I refused to do any work on the side because I didn't have my own gas safe or insurance.

Mike, have you NEVER EVER done a homer?

 

[Gray0689]

Wondered what you guys would do. A local person I've heard of is working a Mon-Fri job and working in holidays etc at really cheap rates. I am 99% sure they are not declaring tax and undercutting local tradesmen for this reason.

Obviously you can't be 100% sure but what would you guys do in this situation?

This sounds more like jealousy me thinks

 

[Mike Jackson]

No we had a family business until 6 years ago so everything was done through that. When I got employed I gave up my personal Corgi and insurance so was not covered for work outside. I know there were guys on the firm doing it but coming from a family business employing people I don't agree with working behind your employers back.

In 5 1/2 years with Iguana/eagaheat/CES the only work I did outside work hours was in my own home, fitting a new boiler for my father and servicing my sisters boiler. I never did any paid work. I passed any jobs over to a mate.

My attitude stems from running a small business where we treated our staff really well and expected loyalty in return. We only ever had one employee work behind our back (using our van and materials) and he was dismissed.

 

[kirkgas]

No we had a family business until 6 years ago so everything was done through that. When I got employed I gave up my personal Corgi and insurance so was not covered for work outside. I know there were guys on the firm doing it but coming from a family business employing people I don't agree with working behind your employers back.

In 5 1/2 years with Iguana/eagaheat/CES the only work I did outside work hours was in my own home, fitting a new boiler for my father and servicing my sisters boiler. I never did any paid work. I passed any jobs over to a mate.

My attitude stems from running a small business where we treated our staff really well and expected loyalty in return. We only ever had one employee work behind our back (using our van and materials) and he was dismissed.

fair play then, i think im fairly honest and straight forward but have to admit i have done homers in the distant past

 

[Gray0689]

No we had a family business until 6 years ago so everything was done through that. When I got employed I gave up my personal Corgi and insurance so was not covered for work outside. I know there were guys on the firm doing it but coming from a family business employing people I don't agree with working behind your employers back.

In 5 1/2 years with Iguana/eagaheat/CES the only work I did outside work hours was in my own home, fitting a new boiler for my father and servicing my sisters boiler. I never did any paid work. I passed any jobs over to a mate.

My attitude stems from running a small business where we treated our staff really well and expected loyalty in return. We only ever had one employee work behind our back (using our van and materials) and he was dismissed.

That's different using employers van and materials that's called stealing
But homers are a way of life where I come from everyone does it

 

[mcniven]

Correct Gray

 

[Mike Jackson]

I still think it's dodgy as you're working without insurance. If you do it like SouthCoast Boilers and do it on the side legit that's fine.

 

[Mike Jackson]

Even after I got made redundant I wouldn't do any work until I had got my public liability sorted.

 

[mcniven]

Wow, that's good I suppose did u have sex before marriage?

 

[Gray0689]

Wow, that's good I suppose did u have sex before marriage?

Lol I like that

 

[kay-jay]

Wow, that's good I suppose did u have sex before marriage?

Probably had to carry out a risk assessment first .....

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[mountainman]

Wow, that's good I suppose did u have sex before marriage?

Plenty before, much less afterwards...

 

[Mike Jackson]

It's a sorry state of affairs when you feel you have to ridicule someone for being honest and having morals. Perhaps I'm the odd one out but I'm a great believer in do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I'll put up with many faults with people but I don't like dishonesty.

 

[Gray0689]

As you seem to be in the minority on this subject mike
don't realy think it's to do with honesty or Morals imho

 

[quality]

I think the tax office may have larger fish to fry IMHO

 

[Mike Jackson]

As you seem to be in the minority on this subject mike
don't realy think it's to do with honesty or Morals imho

As far as I'm concerned it's got everything to do with morals. I think it's a shame that I seem to be in the minority I would have liked to see more honesty amongst professional plumbers. The trouble is it seems to be the norm now in all walks of life.

It's no wonder there is so much distrust nowadays.

 

[mcniven]

Mike, I totally respect that's your way of doing thing, the rest is all just banter, having a giggle, after all thats what the forums are for eh, would be boring without it!

 

[Barry98]

I'm a great believer in do unto others as you would have them do unto you

THEN RUN BEFORE THE POLICE GET THERE

im with simon focus on you and your work they will get there dues​