the level of knowledge of qualified gas safe engineers

[desrob]

i'm not trying to cause an argument, and i hold my hands up,i'm still learning and don't know or pretend to no every thing,but the reason i write this is because the level of some of the threads off gas safe registered competent class of people leaves me in a state of dis-belief..am i wrong ,please tell me.surley you must shake your head and wonder, these people are competent.dangerous.

 

[tamz]

Sometimes i do actually shake my head and think ....well i better not type what i think :smile:

 

[Barry98]

I think if you had ten engineers look at one gas appliance there would be ten different ways of addressing it but we should all be getting the basic safety bits right

 

[desrob]

Sometimes i do actually shake my head and think ....well i better not type what i think :smile:

thats it, this is an open forum and i believe people are to scared to speak there mind,well not scared but you know what i mean..later

 

[diamondgas]

I'm also learning desrob, never stopped in the years I've been doing this stuff! I'm in awe at times of some of the guys knowledge on here I hold my hands up at not getting it right all the time also ... However there are some comments that baffle me! But then there are a lot of jobs I've come across that I can't believe someone qualified could possibly have done either!!

Maybe the way forward is to question constructively when you know they're offering poor advice?

 

[desrob]

I'm also learning desrob, never stopped in the years I've been doing this stuff! I'm in awe at times of some of the guys knowledge on here I hold my hands up at not getting it right all the time also ... However there are some comments that baffle me! But then there are a lot of jobs I've come across that I can't believe someone qualified could possibly have done either!!

Maybe the way forward is to question constructively when you know they're offering poor advice?

on the fence to day my friend...!

 

[diamondgas]

on the fence to day my friend...!

LOL ... Not at all Me???? as if :lol:

do you have a post/poster in mind desrob?

 

[Mike Jackson]

I'm absolutely astounded at how poor the knowledge of some GSR engineers seems to be. Both on here and elsewhere. Fair enough fault finding on modern boilers but the lack of understanding of even basic gas safety is frightening.

 

[desrob]

come on your not daft,and it's more than my ukplumbers evening entertainment while the wife watches the soaps life is worth.kinda contradicting my early free speech post, but i'm not daft either and i'm aware that i am hanging to my life by a thread.ukplumbers life.

 

[Barry98]

you should never stop learning in this trade only a fool would think he knows everything with the exception of gasman god

 

[Dannypipe]

I've gone out on a limb on here and got it wrong....its not nice, but it happens.

 

[Barry98]

we all make mistakes only a numpty doesnt learn from them

 

[diamondgas]

come on your not daft,and it's more than my ukplumbers evening entertainment while the wife watches the soaps life is worth.kinda contradicting my early free speech post, but i'm not daft either and i'm aware that i am hanging to my life by a thread.ukplumbers life.

I'm not supprised at the lack of knowledge to be honest desrob .... had a good few apprentices in need of work experience in their last years of training ... they hadn't a clue! Absolutely dangerous to be honest. Yet the colleges were turning them out! Money does strange thing to folk I believe!!!

So they've now been let loose on the real world and are struggling!! Scary thing is some find this place and actually believe they are giving good advice!!!

 

[mountainman]

I think Mike that the poor understanding comes from insufficient contact with experienced engineers and maybe a lack of basic engineering skills.

When I was eight I helped my dad repair cars and rewire houses, by ten I was into electronics and tuning & racing motor scooters, on the horizon was computing, hexadecimals, machine code and competition for messers Gates and Jobs.
The world was my lobster.
Sadly at about 16 I discovered that girls werent such nuisance.
By 20 I realised (too late) that I should have been celibate.

 

[Millsy 82]

I'm not supprised at the lack of knowledge to be honest desrob .... had a good few apprentices in need of work experience in their last years of training ... they hadn't a clue! Absolutely dangerous to be honest. Yet the colleges were turning them out! Money does strange thing to folk I believe!!!

So they've now been let loose on the real world and are struggling!! Scary thing is some find this place and actually believe they are giving good advice!!!

The main problem with that statement is the word college. They will churn out the kind of people who can talk the talk and not walk the walk.

When I did my apprenticeship I have NO idea how I qualified as I am not the type of person to learn in a classroom( I know what i'm meant to write but I can't put it into words, Otherwise I would have been a lawyer or something). I am the kind of person who did my apprenticeship and learnt from the miserable old sod who taught me doing things making mistakes and having him moan at me for days. Nowadays everything is done on grades (I had 3 D's 2 E's 2 F's) But give me a boiler/ bit of pipe I can work it all out.

In this game being the most intelligent person does not help being willing to learn and being able to work with your hands is what you need.

Another thing is alot of the younger generation (I am only 30 by the way) have no respect for people. If I worked for my self I would be more inclined to employ somebody who has put themselves through college at night than take on a 16 year old (Shows they want to learn)