Alex the Joiner

[GrahamM]

Alex the joiner fits a gas cooker causes £500000 worth of damage and walks free with 300 hours community service.
Where is the deterrent? These people had to endure painful burns and skin graft treatment. How many lives could have been lost?
Would the sheriff been so lenient if it was a relatives home that was destroyed?
Gas fitter Alex Irvine was given 300 hours community service - Daily Record

 

[sparra1100]

makes ye wonder why we pay all this money out to gas safe and acs stuff and be so peticular in jobs when a bloke does this and get bugger all done to him ye get more for workin on the side or not paying a bill and going to court

 

[mountainman]

An absolute joke

 

[Thoggy]

Ridiculous I wonder what would happen to a gas safe engineer that did wrong, much worse I expect. Gas safe is a joke when it comes to illegals.

 

[AWheating]

what a joke!

 

[glenno1]

i wonder if the 300 hours are spent doing legal eagle home improvements

 

[snowhead]

Ridiculous I wonder what would happen to a gas safe engineer that did wrong, much worse I expect. Gas safe is a joke when it comes to illegals.

A gas engineer would have received a larger fine as he / she should have known better.

 

[dave1]

I'm pretty sure it's not gas safe who decide punishments and fines, that will be down to the courts to decide. All fade safe do is collate the evidence I believe.

 

[snowhead]

I'm pretty sure it's not gas safe who decide punishments and fines, that will be down to the courts to decide. All fade safe do is collate the evidence I believe.

HSE take the Prosecution to court.
The Court, Magistrates or Judge, decide the penalty

 

[jtsplumbing]

I would like to see this flexible pipe that split after just 18 days, and what caused it to split ! could this be a manufactur's fault ?? if so this could have happend to anyone of us. !!

 

[johnnyplumb]

looks like he got off lightly, maybe he had a 'good' lawyer

out of curiousity, if his lawyer claims that the house owners knew that he was not gas safe registered, but in order to save a bit of money, still allowed him to fit the cooker, would that make him less liable ?

 

[johnnyplumb]

i wonder if the 300 hours are spent doing legal eagle home improvements

na, lawyers and judges are all decent honourable professionals :wink5:

 

[Barry98]

na, lawyers and judges are all decent honourable professionals :wink5:

Cook oooo cook ooo alert

 

[GrahamM]

I would like to see this flexible pipe that split after just 18 days, and what caused it to split ! could this be a manufactur's fault ?? if so this could have happend to anyone of us. !!

Read more in another paper. It appears the flexi was not hanging in a relaxed 'U' form and the undue stress on the hose resulted in it splitting.
Open & shut case. Was not installed properly!

 

[mountainman]

I've seen plenty of cooker tubes not hanging correctly but I've never seen one split.
Doesn't make any difference though, the guy should have been banged up IMO.

 

[Guest123]

Probably his 300 hours community service is installing gas fires for free.

 

[snowhead]

From Construction Enquirer;

After removing the kitchen unit and worktop, Irvine cut a copper pipe to remove an old gas hob, cleaned the end of the cut piece and attached a flexible, rubber hose.

The other end of the hose was attached to the new cooker before it was pushed back against the wall.


An HSE investigation found the hose was trapped between the cooker, the floor and side unit so it could become kinked when it was pushed against the wall.

Tests revealed that the hose had split at a middle point in the bend of the hose where it had been trapped, on both the inner steel winding and the outer rubber sheath coating. This would have allowed unburnt gas to enter the property.