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i scrap my bits and bobs once a year,just before xmas,to cut a long story short i went today and was told that he could no longer take scrap from me unless i had a waste carriers license ,what a wasted journey that was,either i sell it to my mate and take a hit or get a license,i tell ya it's getting harder.
 
Once again the beurocrats have shafted us. I guess we should all jack in the plumbing game and join the likes of Starbucks, Amazon and google who get away with paying nothing into our system for years.

I guess the next time I call at my accountants I will have a choice of going through the green or red door. Anything to declare sir? Yes, one copper cylinder and a heat exchanger... :hand:

Next thing will be the scrappie having to deduct VAT from the funds we receive. Rant Over!
 
how do you think the scrappies would do if we all didnt go in for a year?
 
what will be the charge to have the money paid into your account? i can also see it being taxed soon, just another sly way of pretending to protect the thieves from stealing church lead with a convenient spin off to tax the honest working man.
 
basically the new law does not apply to gypsies!!!

why they cant take vehicle reg's number is a breach of human rights so a counselor tells me!!!!!


i am going to stock pile it and take it every 2 years and get a holiday out of it, well my 19 year old student daughter is going too.lol
 
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Am I right saying that now is not the best time to weigh in though as prices will alter in the scrappies favour the nearer to xmas it get's and what is the chances they will actually follow the audit trail from the scrappy to your books. I bet if you put a little through and get some in "her indoors's" name you'd still be able to pull the wool over the tax mans eyes UNLESS you are a massive operation ie Pimlico Plumbers.....

i know Red Scar at Preston told me he'd still be paying cash but they do record transactions ect in a proffesional way.....
 
REDSAW said:
how do you think the scrappies would do if we all didnt go in for a year?
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Theyd be doing the same amount of business as some little so and so of a traveling nature would be raiding mine and your garage and flogging it.
 
oh dear, I did not realise and have just taken my scrap to the scrappy. He took my driving license which he did last time but then got me to sign a piece of paper. Which I did not check till just now. which says 'i declare i have the authority to sell''. Bummer. Surely he should have asked me if I have a License?
 
Anyone know of any solutions to this yet? I guess as I was not caught carrying it, I could just say it was from my house.
 
By the sound of what is mentioned above this is going to have to be declared! Bummer paying 20% of your perks to the taxman now aswell as everything else they just don't know when to BUTT OUT!!!
 
that is a bummer but what I am worried about is them seeing that i don't have a license and fining me
 
its too late now, the deal has be done!!! And after all the substance abuse i did in my teens i suffer from severe paranoia. So it's going to be sleepless nights for me
 
the licence is about £170 last time i looked anyway which was a few months back.
 
mutley racers said:
that is a bummer but what I am worried about is them seeing that i don't have a license and fining me
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I wouldn't sweat it. This is one of those situations where the cost of the control would outweigh the benefits so it will not be in place. Another annoyance has been added to our daily grind but one not worth stressing about IMHO :smile:
 
erpkid said:
I wouldn't sweat it. This is one of those situations where the cost of the control would outweigh the benefits so it will not be in place. Another annoyance has been added to our daily grind but one not worth stressing about IMHO :smile:
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Unless you happen to be in one of the areas where they are checking. Unlikely to happen after the event but VOSA have been carrying out spot checks across Kent and Sussex and apparently some vehicle were ceased and crushed in Kent.
 
dont see why not, you could tell them.............. all the brass fittings are re-useable???? the cylinder is a pikey entrapment device????
 
Ive used the not having a waste carriers licence as an excuse to not take rubbish away from a job so I suppose I should really leave the scrap there too...................................unlikely though
 
i've got a waste carriers licence except when customers want the rubbish taken away, when i conveniently forget i have one lol
 
Heating Genie said:
Once again the beurocrats have shafted us. I guess we should all jack in the plumbing game and join the likes of Starbucks, Amazon and google who get away with paying nothing into our system for years.

I guess the next time I call at my accountants I will have a choice of going through the green or red door. Anything to declare sir? Yes, one copper cylinder and a heat exchanger... :hand:

Next thing will be the scrappie having to deduct VAT from the funds we receive. Rant Over!
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The scrap dealer we use does not pay you the vat unless you are VAT registered.
I think you will find they do not give you the VAT and never have even before the new rules.
 
We don't have that law up here until next year, so you always save it all up and cross the border with your scrap! LOL
 
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