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Just been asked how much to remove a rad for decorating. I know its standard stuff and not a massive job. Am i over charging at 20 quid?
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I thought there are currently NO legisation in plumbing apart from the obvious i.e Gas safe OFTEC and unvented?
I'm 32 with a house and young family mate. my days of drugs and stealing are long gone. we all have to mature like a fine wine at some point lol.
Desrob you obviously dont condone anyone trying to better themselves and try to provide for a young family.
Iv studied two years for my 6129 qulification spend well over £1500 on tools and now looking into buying a van am I going to stop what I enjoy doing just because I haven't got an NVQ? No. Its so hard to gain an apprenticeship at the moment but I enjoy plumbing so that isn't going to stop me .
we all have to mature like a fine wine at some point lol.
What do you mean? You will need an NVQ? To practise plumbing?
You only require nvq on new builds i think so you need both parts to be "industry recognised". I may be wrong.
You only require nvq on new builds i think so you need both parts to be "industry recognised". I may be wrong.
I fully agree everyone has to learn, some are destined to be tradesmen other are destined to be businessmen, it's worth bearing in mind that a Ltd. company does not need any qualifications in fact the directors of some of the biggest service providers in this industry are accountants.
I suggest that young men starting out would do a lot worse than employing a retired plumber, kind of mentor / instructor, the combination of the wise old head and the young energetic tradesman could be winning combination.
A couple of things to note, there is no such thing as a silly question only the one you didn't ask, as for qualifications we graduate from the college of life in our last moments on this earth so never be afraid to continue learning, finally remember any small job you do includes traveling to and from the job don't forget to charge that out as well as the hour you spend on the job.
Have fun.
I've studied for 35 years to gain just about every trade related qualification out there and others, spent well over 50k on tools, spent over 100k on vans and i stopped enjoying it years ago.
You dont need an NVQ to do plumbing.Your city and guilds is plenty enough,Imo this NVQ is a money making scheme.College wanted my 1500 pound to sit in the class room and a further 1500 to do NVQ that would include all on site visits.I no a few people that are doing NVQs and dont actually have a placement
The NVQ system was introduced so that people could get on the job training and qualifications using workplace assessors.
C&Gs being done in college - traditionally being combined with full-time work, i.e. 1 day in college & 4 days at work.
Many FE colleges got into NVQ training, and they were misusing the qualification because there was no real on the job work involved, and they were told they had to stop abusing the system.
The politics of the NVQ system was about reducing the State's responsibility for training people, and turning it over to private enterprise.
What the politicians grossly underestimated was that it takes time to train people, and that training requires not only the necessary craft skills, but also skills in training, i.e. the ability to communicate relevant information, and the ability to communicate and relate at a level that enables the trainee to feedback on what they have learned and where the grey areas are. Telling people where they've gone wrong is one thing, being able to analyse why they've got it wrong, and feedback in a constructive way is another.
A good tradesman needs to know what he needs to know, and the skills to apply such knowledge to be good at his job. But if you ask him why he does what he does, and to explain what he does in great detail, he may not always know, i.e. he may say that he does it that way because that's how he was trained. Also, being good at what you do doesn't necessarily mean that you have the patients or the inclination to pass such skills on.
Turning over training to the private sector has generally been a failure, even during the more prosperous years.
The tried and tested model is to put people into jobs where they get input from FE colleges combined with support and some supervision when on the job.
We live in a country where lots of people don't have homes, and we have lots of people who would jump at the chance of learning construction skills, plus we have an increasing number of people who have construction skills but lack work, so the obvious thing is to start building homes for the people who need them using the people who have the skills, and those that want to learn, to get the system going again.
However, because the college boys who are running this country have been told by their Thatcherite mentors that such a plan is ideologically unsound, it doesn't happen!
I thought there are currently NO legisation in plumbing apart from the obvious i.e Gas safe OFTEC and unvented?
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