Can i service my own boiler if am not gas safe registered

[AWheating]

anybody who is willing to service there own boiler when not competent to do so wont care either way what the regs state, muggers know its against the law to mug somebody..... do they care?

 

[ecowarm]

anybody who is willing to service there own boiler when not competent to do so wont care either way what the regs state, muggers know its against the law to mug somebody..... do they care?

I think this thread is weather you can service your own boiler if competant but not registered

 

[Puddle]

Think the answer is no,coz after so many posts and the length of time of discussion,think the boiler is past servicing and replacement now required

so can op replace his own boiler without.................

 

[gaspastemania]

as puddle states does it really matter?
In reality i come across so much gas diy its unreal and what do gas safe do???
nothing!!!
So its irrelevant because people will service there own boiler competant or not .

 

[AWheating]

I think this thread is weather you can service your own boiler if competant but not registered

I was mearly saying that if somebody who is unregistered wants to service there own boiler they are unlikely to care what and how its written in the regulations. Any competent person will be registered and working in the industry, if you are not then why be bothered whats written down as you dont care enough to follow it anyway.

 

[CMairiD]

I can't believe I've allowed myself to be sucked into this, but ...

Those that are looking for GSIUR 1998, it can be found here: Safety in the installation and use of gas systems and appliances - L56

I would suggest pages 25 & 26, paying CLOSE attention to guidance points 45 & 47.

 

[fuzzy]

as puddle states does it really matter?
In reality i come across so much gas diy its unreal and what do gas safe do???
nothing!!!
So its irrelevant because people will service there own boiler competant or not .

wouldnt say its irrelevant just because some people dont abide, like suggesting pointless having speeding laws because some people speed

 

[fuzzy]

I was mearly saying that if somebody who is unregistered wants to service there own boiler they are unlikely to care what and how its written in the regulations. Any competent person will be registered and working in the industry, if you are not then why be bothered whats written down as you dont care enough to follow it anyway.

not all competent people are registered

 

[fuzzy]

I can't believe I've allowed myself to be sucked into this, but ...

Those that are looking for GSIUR 1998, it can be found here: Safety in the installation and use of gas systems and appliances - L56

I would suggest pages 25 & 26, paying CLOSE attention to guidance points 45 & 47.

You mean these? Which seem to support what I have been saying, however RoryD quoted something else, could RoryD tell us were this quote came from please

45 Anyone who does work on a gas fitting or gas storage vessel must be
competent to do so, whether or not they are required to be a member of
an approved class of persons. Therefore, do-it-yourself gas engineers and
those performing favours for friends and relatives all need to have the required
competence. The level and range of competence should match the full extent of
work done, but needs only to be sufficient for and relevant to that work. Employers
of gas fitting operatives are also required under regulation 3(2) to ensure that their
employees have the required competence for the work undertaken; in addition to
ensuring they are properly experienced and trained (see paragraph 47), this involves
ongoing monitoring of performance standards, as necessary.


47 Competence depends on a combination of training and experience. The
ACOP Standards of training in safe gas installation provides guidance both on
the scope of training and the need for proper assessment/reassessment of gas
fitting operatives (see Appendix 4). Although failure to observe any provision of the
Code is not in itself an offence, that failure may be taken by a Court in criminal
proceedings as proof that a person has contravened a particular regulation.
The ACOP extends to gas installation work at premises excluded from these
Regulations but subject to the HSW Act sections 2 and 3 – see paragraph 42 and
Appendix 3. The nationally accredited certification scheme introduced in January
1998 requires individual gas fitting operatives to have their competence assessed
at five-yearly intervals by a certification body accredited by the United Kingdom
Accreditation Service (UKAS)

 

[dontknowitall]

not all competent people are registered

And not all registered people are competent, from what I read ...

 

[fuzzy]

And not all registered people are competent, from what I read ...

difference is they are supposed to be, not everyone with a driving license is a competent driver yet they have met the required standard

 

[dontknowitall]

Very true!

 

[fuzzy]

im looking forward to see where this quote came from from roryd, ive never seen it before, im happy to be proved wrong but everything ive read so far suggest i am right

 

[CMairiD]

You mean these? Which seem to support what I have been saying, however RoryD quoted something else, could RoryD tell us were this quote came from please

Yes, fuzzy, that's exactly what I was referring to.

Rory quotes:

Right can't resist this!!

no person can work on Gas unless competent to do so [ Rule 3 (1)]

A competent person is someone who is a member of a recommended body by the H.S.E. [rule 3. (3)] namely Gas Safe

These come from page 25. What Rory is missing from his quote on 3.3 are the words employer, employees, and self-employed. These are the people that, when doing work for hire, are required to be of a class of persons approved by the HSE.

 

[fuzzy]

Yes, fuzzy, that's exactly what I was referring to.

Rory quotes:



These come from page 25. What Rory is missing from his quote on 3.3 are the words employer, employees, and self-employed. These are the people that, when doing work for hire, are required to be of a class of persons approved by the HSE.

thanks mate
i realise that about being employed but roryd has quoted that registration refers to competence, however i dont see it anywhere, so id like him/her to point out were this has come from.
point 3 is about employed or self employed, different point to the op and therefore irrelevant