Worst boiler to work on competition

[Nostrum]

As above, whats the worse part/boiler you've had to work on and why? (no detail into gas safety as it's in the wrong forum!)

personally for me, after today i'm voting Worcester CDI expansion vessel. Wasn't much left in it once I got the old one out, fan, heat ex, plate hex, pump, APS etc all removed.... nightmare! Normally fit an external in, but couldn't on this one.

 

[radswilldo]

For overall bad design, faults, fault diagnosis and being installer unfriendly, I think the Gledhill Gulfstream desrves a mention. Have only worked on the one; four years running, new fault/faults each year.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

For overall bad design, faults, fault diagnosis and being installer unfriendly, I think the Gledhill Gulfstream desrves a mention. Have only worked on the one; four years running, new fault/faults each year.

and the gledhill boilermate should win some sort of award for being useless aS WELL

 

[stevetheplumber]

and the gledhill boilermate should win some sort of award for being useless aS WELL

unless you do what ive done and rip out all the electrics and run your own

 

[stevetheplumber]

I'm trying to remember that boiler I'm pretty sure they had a diaphragm APS? The y had a rubber boot on the back for connecting the flue I remember and the changeover sliding black lever on the front to change from hot water only to water and heating!!!

620 had the paddle type air switch and the later 623 had a normal diaphram type actually the paddle one was pretty near bullet proof

 

[mountainman]

Pretty much anything by Saunier Duval was a pain to repair IMO.

 

[doitmyself]

Remeha for installing.

Why? What problems have you had?

 

[Doodlebug]

As above, whats the worse part/boiler you've had to work on and why? (no detail into gas safety as it's in the wrong forum!)

personally for me, after today i'm voting Worcester CDI expansion vessel. Wasn't much left in it once I got the old one out, fan, heat ex, plate hex, pump, APS etc all removed.... nightmare! Normally fit an external in, but couldn't on this one.

I hate changing the plate heat exchanger or water storage tank on a Worcester Highflow, now that is a nightmare job. Did you know with the Worcester CDI expansion vessel, if you have enough clearance you can pop the side of the case off and re-revit back on? This is what Worcester engineers do. Another nightmare job has to be the condensing unit at the back of a Worcester CDI Extra.
have you noticed, all of the above are Worcester boilers, I fooking hate them pmsl

 

[Nostrum]

Pretty sure you have to angle grind a hole in the chassis to get it out the right hand side, couldn't imagine the customer being to pleased about the mess and noise!

It's that 3/4" union on the plate heat exchanger that winds me up, it always feels like it wants to cross thread, normally flapping around with it for 5 minutes, especially if you've only got 150mm clearances below from the worktop, one hand through the front trying to get it to line up, and the front facia panel swings down in the way..

I'm not a fan of worcesters at all, sometimes I think they do it deliberately so they get more work, couldn't imagine a more stressful job than working for worcester

 

[Dotty]

The 3 Buderus GB162's in a galvanising factory over here. They're only 3 years old but look 103, each one has been completely rebuilt at least once, 2 heat exchangers, all the connection boards, two wiring harnesses, the combustion fans fail about every other month, one flue has been replaced and so on. My heart sinks every time I'm asked to go to silverwood.

And why are they so much hard work? Because they supply hot water for the acid vats and are in a highly corrosive atmosphere. Tools develop a fine layer of corrosion within an hour. I hate the place because it actually makes you doubt yourself.

And I normally love the GB162! Just a case of the wrong boiler for the environment.

Had a phone call yesterday......

"Silverwood's just rung, they've a 3L 214 error message on boiler 1, its not working."

"Sigh...... I'll order a fan up for next week......"

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

I hate changing the plate heat exchanger or water storage tank on a Worcester Highflow, now that is a nightmare job. Did you know with the Worcester CDI expansion vessel, if you have enough clearance you can pop the side of the case off and re-revit back on? This is what Worcester engineers do. Another nightmare job has to be the condensing unit at the back of a Worcester CDI Extra.
have you noticed, all of the above are Worcester boilers, I fooking hate them pmsl

yep riveted many back together,though did once slip with a full of water EV and kill the gasvalve electrical connections

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

Pretty sure you have to angle grind a hole in the chassis to get it out the right hand side, couldn't imagine the customer being to pleased about the mess and noise!

It's that 3/4" union on the plate heat exchanger that winds me up, it always feels like it wants to cross thread, normally flapping around with it for 5 minutes, especially if you've only got 150mm clearances below from the worktop, one hand through the front trying to get it to line up, and the front facia panel swings down in the way..

I'm not a fan of worcesters at all, sometimes I think they do it deliberately so they get more work, couldn't imagine a more stressful job than working for worcester

if your talking cdi then nope just drill the rivets out

 

[Nostrum]

Cheers, I'll remember that for next time, I was told you needed a grinder, so the chassis is just pop riveted together?

Sounds a lot easier than the other day, does it work both sides or only the right?

 

[e/bourneplumber]

ideal elan with the brown slide up glass front, a classic. pressure relief valve on a wb junior, find it easier once to undo the flue and unions and lift the boiler off to get at it. why do remeha have an off centre flue so fitting a replacement in a row of cupboards is a nightmare? also condense and pr, why dont they come out at the back in line with all the rest of the pipes instead they come out some where in the middle? still working on ideal minimisers another classic ideal design, along with the newer

 

[e/bourneplumber]

icos and isar

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

Cheers, I'll remember that for next time, I was told you needed a grinder, so the chassis is just pop riveted together?

Sounds a lot easier than the other day, does it work both sides or only the right?

both sides just get a drill and big enough hss bit,drill the heads off