Laco has that trait..... He used fernox flux..... Not a problem, it seemed a good clean flux but my main gripe was that he never cleaned the copper before fluxing, even when obviously tarnished, that left even him doubting some joints when drips appeared after power up.... It was condensation but he doubted his own joints.
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Yep, I told him I was fussy, was more interested in a good job and that almost word for word, I've obviously got a budget but I wasn't out to Rob anyone..... Which I thought was a fair upfront and honest approach. He gave his price, I never haggled and agreed immediately, even paid him a £50 tip for at least turning up on time and he was clearly a good worker.... And a nice personable guy.
I offered to labour for him, which I did, I bought everything needed but he seemed to prefer using his own Yorkshire fittings mostly, rather than the endex end feed ones I'd bought.... No big deal really.
Admittedly all my pipework was new but its still good craftsmanship to clean and all my new joints were routinely cleaned & deburred.
I see your point about deburring and I don't. You really need to consider what the deburring is achieving. While I myself do like to use a pen deburrer whenever possible, I can accept that in most cases the speed of flow is unlikely to result in significant turbulence. After all, since 22mm has twice the volume of 15mm, it is likely that almost all 22mm application is actually not correct pipe sizing, but over-engineering (but it avoids using obscure pipe sizes that are not readily available). Short of doing a full pipe run calculation, it would be impossible to comment. Very probably, all I'm usually achieving is wasting time.
I worked with a guy once who was obsessed about the need to run pulled bends rather than elbows to a radiator that was right next to the boiler, while on the same system there were radiators at a great distance. All I was thinking was that any reduction in flow resistance from the pulled bends would just mean increased balancing would be required to ensure the distant radiators received adequate flow.
Anti-thermosiphon loops are not that uncommon, and, if you think about it, the need for the vent pipe running from a hot water cylinder to be 18" away from the cylinder outlet and connected by a near-horizontal pipe is to prevent parasitical circulation, one-pipe circulation, unwanted thermosiphoning or whatever you want to call it, so it's much the same thing. But we do all call it different things and I must say that, while I have both used and come across such loops in the course of my work, they were not really explained to me at college and so I'm not quite sure what they are supposed to be called either!
I worked with a guy once who was obsessed about the need to run pulled bends rather than elbows to a radiator that was right next to the boiler, while on the same system there were radiators at a great distance. All I was thinking was that any reduction in flow resistance from the pulled bends would just mean increased balancing would be required to ensure the distant radiators received adequate flow.
Anti-thermosiphon loops are not that uncommon, and, if you think about it, the need for the vent pipe running from a hot water cylinder to be 18" away from the cylinder outlet and connected by a near-horizontal pipe is to prevent parasitical circulation, one-pipe circulation, unwanted thermosiphoning or whatever you want to call it, so it's much the same thing. But we do all call it different things and I must say that, while I have both used and come across such loops in the course of my work, they were not really explained to me at college and so I'm not quite sure what they are supposed to be called either!
Thanks for your input.... I am a fussy bugger but I actually assumed that with all the hype over the essential mandating of gas safe rgi's, that standards were very high..... Needless to say, I've had a rude awakening and now have eroded trust in tradesmen.... Common for me.
Gas Safe Registration is about making sure that the installation is safe and has been properly tested not so much whether the pipework is pretty to look at.
If you are fussy about the 'finish' on the work to be done then you need to see examples (or photographs) of their recent work to check that their normal working standard matches your expectations.
Well as far as I'm concerned it's a fail on all fronts but hey ho.... Happy new year...
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tbh its a average install
it wont matter that much on the tf1 as its just swirl the other way round the magnet but you can swap it round easily since your an engineer takes less than 10 seconds
it wont matter that much on the tf1 as its just swirl the other way round the magnet but you can swap it round easily since your an engineer takes less than 10 seconds
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we all do well i do
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how much did you pay for the install labour? roughly
350....I'd budgeted 500......
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round about a day to day and a half then to complete ?
Not forgetting I'd supplied everything and even mounted the frame and cut the flue aperture....
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