Part P, From the horses mouth, info I have obatined

[armyash]

Hi everyone,

Further on from my other Part P thread, I have managed to gain more information from the guy I have been working with (for) on weekends and also from Corgi themselves. I'm sharing this information for anyone who is interested or in the same boat as me. I have took on so much information the last 18 months from this forum, phone calls and my courses that it feels impossible to arrange it in my brain in any sort of logical order! lol

The man who has let me go out with him to learn on weekends went through the paperwork for commissioning a new install on the weekend (priceless). I asked him about the electrical qualifications needed to install the boiler (and the rest) and he confirmed that Part P is all that is required, and he has also registered with Corgi electrical (as you would Gas safe).

He completes the electrical work on his installs and he obviously knows what he's talking about, he is very professional and his customers are always happy with his work when ever I am with him and I can only hope to reach anywhere near his level of work in the future.

Also I spoke to Corgi yesterday afternoon and they confirmed that Part P is all you need but registering with them is NOT a legal requirement as the install job would be logged with Gas safe. From that I can take that if you know you don't want to do electrics on showers etc but you do want to do the electrics on boilers as long as you have Part P and you are GSR (obviously) you're good to go.

If this info is useful to just one person it was worth typing, it's helped me understand it clearer as I type it out so no skin off my nose.

 

[AWheating]

all new central heating control wiring IS notifiable, including: timers, stats, valves, pumps, boilers

imho

not if you are changing like for like, unless its in special locations like bathroom/kitchen. If your altering an exsisting circuit then yes it will need a cert (minor works normally)

 

[armyash]

Let's explore a hypothetical situation.

A fifteen year old begins his apprenticeship with a major employer in the 70's.
He completes the apprenticeship and C&G, he further goes on to attain C&G craft in both Plumbing and Electrical.

With me so far??

After that our hero goes on to run his own company, employing several direct trades running subbies, dealing with large organisations and titled gentry.

All I want to know is, if this pillar of achievement wanted to get a part time job after a short retirement from his industry, would this countries preoccupation with NVQ preclude him from employment??

Surely if he has C&G from the 70's then he's already qualified? Would just have to update quals to keep up with the latest requirements (which is where the need for 17th edition by next year would come in to play).

 

[dancinplumba]

so you would replace an old piece of cable with an old piece of cable ?

 

[AWheating]

so you would replace an old piece of cable with an old piece of cable ?

what ever floats your boat!

you can change a piece of flex to a pump from a terminal box no problem, if you alter the fixed wiring ie. move a socket, add a spur then your need to cert. If you change a clock for a clock in the same position then you do not need to cert. If you change a light fitting switch in the same position then no cert, if you move the switch to another position then you need a cert.

thats what i remember being taught on my electrical training and 17th course but i will stand corrected if my memory is playing me up!

 

[mountainman]

Surely if he has C&G from the 70's then he's already qualified? Would just have to update quals to keep up with the latest requirements (which is where the need for 17th edition by next year would come in to play).

I agree, but everything is open to interpretation.
And please, don't call me Shirley...

 

[AWheating]

I agree, but everything is open to interpretation.
And please, don't call me Shirley...

calm down Shirley

 

[Nostrum]

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BR_PDF_ADP_2006.pdf

Page 8

Anything that needs to be notified means that you need to be a member of a competent persons scheme and registered to carry out electrical works.

Job done

 

[dancinplumba]

page 9: general requirements: M and N ,
showers and cookers not notifiable if no new circuit......

 

[Barry98]

hardly get past page 3 myself but hey ho

 

[armyash]

Things are starting to get complicated as they did with the other Part P thread of mine lol

Ok the bloke I work for has Part P, he is registered with Corgi electrical so can complete the electrical aspects of his plumbing work, anyone think that's incorrect?

 

[Barry98]

Sounds good to me

 

[dancinplumba]

nope not at all
imho as always

 

[armyash]

nope not at all
imho as always

joking right

 

[dancinplumba]

joking right

i do not think thats incorrect, there isnt a problem with it

 

[armyash]

So who here actually does their own electrics and what quals do you have and are you registered with Corgi?