working out of scope

[REDSAW]

so, what does this mean?.

you can dibble a little bit as long as you dont change anything.
not allowed to touch, or what?.

basically, can anyone expand on the subject ie;

you want to repair back boiler but dont have htr1 ticket so cant take off one gas union to move the fire off.

previous post earlier=, you have most other tickets but you dont have a ckr1 ticket so you cant put a bayonet fitting on a new cooker because its outside your scope?.

what is the procedure or punishment if your 'pulled' for working outside the scope and where is the line drawn?:44:

p.s i am not talking obvious here like fitting fires if you only have cooker ticket!

 

[quality]

ok £80 + 10 % = £88
£80 + 110% = £168
Ps I am talking out of scope because my margin is 200%

 

[quality]

So the facts are 110% does exist as explained by kirk in his sales pitch lol

 

[kirkgas]

ok £80 + 10 % = £88
£80 + 110% = £168
Ps I am talking out of scope because my margin is 200%

my 110% was of the purchase price as i said not purchase price plus 110% but looking at the figures maybe that is the way to work it out

 

[kirkgas]

So the facts are 110% does exist as explained by kirk in his sales pitch lol

it annoys me when footy managers say they want their players to give 110% effort as that is not possible, but you can increase turnover or sales by 110%

 

[quality]

It was my local independent who explained how he worked his MARGIN on supplied goods and that's how he prices his sales (been doing, it same place same supplies, over 20years).
Simply put He buys a part at X cost I pay his cost plus the % which is always more than 100% because he buys more than I do.
Some times he can be 20 30 quid more expensive but when you turn up and need a part and he has it on the shelf its worth that 110%

 

[darking]

ok i submit

 

[REDSAW]

silly me i thought that was called 10% markup ie 100 percent origional plus 10% markup

i made 900% on a job last week with no parts just an hour rate, took 2o minutes is that 100% plus overtime?.

 

[quality]

Is that a full 101% or just 99%

only jesting

ps welcome there is a good crowd on here

 

[darking]

when i started out pricing a job i would think of a figure, treble it and be amazed at how much that 3% added up to

 

[Napper]

What a load of rubbish on an otherwise relavent thread!

REDSAW surely if it was an hr rate and took 20 min thats only 300% unless you only gave it 33% effort?

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

I don't know the price of bread:wink:

its £1.20 for medium braces LOL,and 2 quid for the other stuff i dont like but the wife does because it has budgie seed in it or something and apparently is good for your well being,as i pointed out beer is good for my well being,it de stresses me unless its stella that has a profound effect on me which is not good for anyone's well being lol

 

[tamz]

its £1.20 for medium braces LOL

I leave kind of thing to the professionals. I'd be working out of scope so steer well clear :lol:

 

[REDSAW]

What a load of rubbish on an otherwise relavent thread!

REDSAW surely if it was an hr rate and took 20 min thats only 300% unless you only gave it 33% effort?

no, it was a price job for 3 hours plus parts. i fixed the problem instead and took only 20 mins for a job i didnt want to do so charged the agreed rate and solved the problem.lol.

 

[Napper]

sorry to bring you guys down but.

There should be some common sense rule like...
If your found to be working out of scope on minor works you should have to prove that you have complied with the relavent regs regarding that appliance as long as your other tickets show a level of competancy -no prob. excluding instalation of course.

I remember adding an element to my ACS that involved 10min training and 1 question on a paper, does that really make me any safer to work on that appliance than any other well read engineer?

 

[AmritPedersen]

sorry to bring you guys down but.

There should be some common sense rule like...
If your found to be working out of scope on minor works you should have to prove that you have complied with the relavent regs regarding that appliance as long as your other tickets show a level of competancy -no prob. excluding instalation of course.

I remember adding an element to my ACS that involved 10min training and 1 question on a paper, does that really make me any safer to work on that appliance than any other well read engineer?

Not the point. If true then how will all those impoverished testing organisations & centres buy their nice second cars?