working out of scope

[tamz]

Fire and bbu are classed as one unit. You don't need a fires ticket to work on them.

 

[REDSAW]

Fire and bbu are classed as one unit. You don't need a fires ticket to work on them.

'ears ***** up' ...... interesting, which is it under then tamz, fire or boiler ticket?. expand all your knowledge on this please as i have been told other.

 

[tamz]

Covered by cen1. The fire and boiler is a combined unit. Testing of the fire is done through the boiler. There is no other way to incorrectly fit or test the fire than through the boiler so you need a boiler ticket.

Don't know how it would be if the bbu was decommissioned. Never thought of that until now.

 

[SimonJohns]

How can you replace the fire back in its opening and prove its working ok after the works.

Surely you wouldn't need to do all relevant gas fire safety checks.

I would say you have to have both.

 

[REDSAW]

now we are where i was aiming. is or int?. i need help here as i have 5 units on back load and given 3 away cause i am not too sure and not got a fire ticket.
like you say tamz, its either a fire or part of the boiler and without the boiler, is it a fire??????/.
clear as mud to me:-{ and sods law i didnt need one and now i do.

 

[kirkgas]

now we are where i was aiming. is or int?. i need help here as i have 5 units on back load and given 3 away cause i am not too sure and not got a fire ticket.
like you say tamz, its either a fire or part of the boiler and without the boiler, is it a fire??????/.
clear as mud to me:-{ and sods law i didnt need one and now i do.

listen to your uncle tam he knows everything, the fire front is not a stand alone fire and is technically classed as a "part" of the back boiler unit the same as the boiler gas valve and heat exchanger, and i can guarantee CEN1 or CENWAT is all you need to work on a bbu, although as tam says if the boiler is decommissioned that could change, i dont KNOW the answer but really have to say you will still be ok on CEN ticket as the fire front is still a "part" of the bbu and flue flow and spillage would still be done via boiler flue way, you could argue either way, but im sure if pushed it would come out that CEN would be adequate, the decommisssioned boiler doesnt really make the fire a stand alone, cause you test the fire on its own anyway as the firt part of spillage test, then you turn on the boiler (and REMEMBER to increase boiler BP to max) as we all know you do spillage test at max, and tons of guys dont change set boiler BP to max to do spillage test, thats my interpretation of the text of the test and do it, so im covered if anything does go wrong, again we could argue you dont need to but it takes me about 10 secs to turn to max and back down with the spillage test needing done anyway, so if im wasting time its mine to waste

 

[Rob Sale]

Fire and bbu are classed as one unit. You don't need a fires ticket to work on them.

We are being told you need both cenwat1 and htr1 to work on fire/bbu at college.

 

[REDSAW]

We are being told you need both cenwat1 and htr1 to work on fire/bbu at college.

??????eh!

 

[tamz]

We are being told you need both cenwat1 and htr1 to work on fire/bbu at college.

Maybe you should ask them to show you where it says that.

 

[tamz]

listen to your uncle tam he knows everything,

I don't know the price of bread:wink: