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John Plumber
Hi All,
This is my first posting as I’m new to this forum.
I wonder if there is someone out there who can help with a very strange fault on a Halstead Ace HE 30 combi boiler ?
The boiler is about 5 years old but being in a holiday home has only had limited use, probably equivalent to less than a year of a normal full time boiler.
The problem is that the DHW doesn’t gets hot but not hot enough, certainly not enough to give a good shower or to provide really hot water for washing up.
Symptoms are:-
Central heating is fine.
After a bit of experimenting I have found the following strange behaviour:
If I run a HW tap near the boiler (within six feet) the boiler fires up, the water runs hottish, more than warm but not really hot, i.e. you can still hold your hand under the flow. The actual flow is fine, very similar to the cold. It will stay at this hottish temperature for as long as the tap is run.
Now, and this is the interesting bit, if I open a second nearby HW tap, just a bit then the flow from the first tap goes up in temperature to that you would expect, i.e too hot to keep a hand in it. Again it will stay like this for as long as both taps are run.
Turn off the second tap and the first tap goes back to hottish, (but not hot enough to give a good hot shower).
My first thought was the flow switch but I have measured the contact closure and it closes as soon there is any flow and stays on solid until the flow is stopped.
The only clue I have is that you can hear the boiler going from one burner noise level with the one tap flowing to a louder noise when the second tap is opened, I guess this is the burner being modulated.
Somehow the boiler is seeing a marginal increase in flow and deciding to go into a higher heat mode.
The second tap doesn’t produce any hot water but I wouldn’t expect it too, the boiler has only ever been able to keep one tap flow hot, yells from the shower when the kitchen tap is run…but I guess that’s normal.
As the flow switch is on, and it’s a simple on/off control, I can't see what is causing the boiler to go into ‘hotter’ mode when two taps are open but not when just one tap even when the flow is strong?
Incidentally things used to be fine so it is definitely some sort of fault.
I am reluctant to start buying thermistors, hydroblocks, circuit boards etc. until I can work out just where the fault is.
Any ideas would be more than welcome.
Many thanks
John B
This is my first posting as I’m new to this forum.
I wonder if there is someone out there who can help with a very strange fault on a Halstead Ace HE 30 combi boiler ?
The boiler is about 5 years old but being in a holiday home has only had limited use, probably equivalent to less than a year of a normal full time boiler.
The problem is that the DHW doesn’t gets hot but not hot enough, certainly not enough to give a good shower or to provide really hot water for washing up.
Symptoms are:-
Central heating is fine.
After a bit of experimenting I have found the following strange behaviour:
If I run a HW tap near the boiler (within six feet) the boiler fires up, the water runs hottish, more than warm but not really hot, i.e. you can still hold your hand under the flow. The actual flow is fine, very similar to the cold. It will stay at this hottish temperature for as long as the tap is run.
Now, and this is the interesting bit, if I open a second nearby HW tap, just a bit then the flow from the first tap goes up in temperature to that you would expect, i.e too hot to keep a hand in it. Again it will stay like this for as long as both taps are run.
Turn off the second tap and the first tap goes back to hottish, (but not hot enough to give a good hot shower).
My first thought was the flow switch but I have measured the contact closure and it closes as soon there is any flow and stays on solid until the flow is stopped.
The only clue I have is that you can hear the boiler going from one burner noise level with the one tap flowing to a louder noise when the second tap is opened, I guess this is the burner being modulated.
Somehow the boiler is seeing a marginal increase in flow and deciding to go into a higher heat mode.
The second tap doesn’t produce any hot water but I wouldn’t expect it too, the boiler has only ever been able to keep one tap flow hot, yells from the shower when the kitchen tap is run…but I guess that’s normal.
As the flow switch is on, and it’s a simple on/off control, I can't see what is causing the boiler to go into ‘hotter’ mode when two taps are open but not when just one tap even when the flow is strong?
Incidentally things used to be fine so it is definitely some sort of fault.
I am reluctant to start buying thermistors, hydroblocks, circuit boards etc. until I can work out just where the fault is.
Any ideas would be more than welcome.
Many thanks
John B