Gas fire opening unusual

[neily01]

Wanted to get thoughts of you good people on a gas fire opening. Im guessing there was previously there was a bbu installed which has since been replaced with a vaillant ecotech 415 and a gas fire back inside the old opening. There is a liner hanging into the fire opening with a abestolux sheet fitted to seal around the liner, also abestolux strips used to reduce the opening from 18" to 16". Look forward to your replies.

 

[Atouchofgas]

So I take you have condemned it then?

 

[Nostrum]

There's probably a half decent chimney behind that mess if you rip the board down and pull the flue out. It's A.R though as the openings not sealed.

 

[neily01]

Yep done a spillage test just out of interest and it failed but wasnt going back on what ever. Just never seen anything like it, some one had spent a bit of time doing it wrong as far as i can tell. Fires not going back in, but wondering if this happens often?

 

[neily01]

Did think liner could be removed and chimney would prob be fine, old flitton bricks so hard as nails. But why didnt previous engineer do it not really that hard, abit of repairing inside as you say. What about the abestloux giller pieces? They added the fillers with flue silicone yet forgot to seal between the back panel and opening.

 

[Nostrum]

Is the fire making a seal on these filler pieces?

They probably did it as they didn't want to get up on the roof to take the liner out, and didn't know what else to do with it!

how olds the house, could even be a clay lined chimney?

 

[diamondgas]

Spilling fumes then ID .... otherwise you have to weigh up the install. Might look dodgy but as long as the catchment space is sealed with adequate materials and the fire is otherwise working safely, what's the issue? You ever seen a five piece tin plate and lathe surround? Now that's going back some years

 

[Reg Man]

Hi Neily my old buddy. Chimney opening is a mess. What's it say in the BS's? Smooth taper opening into the flue. A flat plate with in liner sticking through is a nasty cheap short cut that does not meet the requirements.

 

[AWheating]

work of art that.

 

[neily01]

Old house 60's new fire, think it went in with the boiler. Vaillant ecotech 415 the just dosent work at all as hex blocked (standard!) old rads old system no chance! Left him with no fire and barely warm htg and wife 6 months preggers but it is what it is, cant be to safe.

 

[Reg Man]

Old house 60's new fire, think it went in with the boiler. Vaillant ecotech 415 the just dosent work at all as hex blocked (standard!) old rads old system no chance! Left him with no fire and barely warm htg and wife 6 months preggers but it is what it is, cant be to safe.

How many months have you been dealing with this job?:yesnod:

 

[neily01]

Is the fire making a seal on these filler pieces?

They probably did it as they didn't want to get up on the roof to take the liner out, and didn't know what else to do with it!

how olds the house, could even be a clay lined chimney?

Closure plates sits on the fillers pretty well and seals onto the old metal trim well just seems wrong

 

[Leo21]

If it passes its AR surely? And be honest if its pulling its ok.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

apart from it looking a right pigs ear of a fit first thing that hits me is they have used the liner off the old BBU,so it has another 15 years life then?

 

[neily01]

Spilling fumes then ID .... otherwise you have to weigh up the install. Might look dodgy but as long as the catchment space is sealed with adequate materials and the fire is otherwise working safely, what's the issue? You ever seen a five piece tin plate and lathe surround? Now that's going back some years

Catchment not sealed but could be easy enough, like reg man said the lack of a smooth tapered opening just dosnt sit well, 5 piece tin plate and lathe? New to me dg cant wait to see one