Flueless fire

[heliotrope]

so what size vent required on 8kw (if needed) o?

Nil.

I have fitted many flueless apliances over 12Kw without any need for permanant
ventilation needing to be in place.

 

[dancinplumba]

where are you based if you dont mind me asking

 

[mountainman]

Just gotto ask whether we are debating Flueess or Catalytic fires, both are 'flueless' but each read from a different page on the hymnsheet.

 

[dancinplumba]

Nil.

I have fitted many flueless apliances over 12Kw without any need for permanant
ventilation needing to be in place.

its a cooker.... pmsl :hurray:

 

[goz666]

steve yes?
2 points 1,yes flueless fires can be death traps,we had a fatality here in wales through one coming over set and the installer not doing a timetest,2 years ago i fitted 8 flavels and two burleys 8 come from the factory RADICALLY overset i had to ID my new fits and get service visits
point 2
i see you are saying a black hole vent is suitable,just for clarification a vario 100 cm2 with baffles removed is suitable but the square black hole vortex is not it was down graded to 80 cm2 5 years ago unless your talking of the newer black hole that does provide 100cm2 but does not stop any draft

Not sure which model it was now gasman, certainly said 100cm2. I agree it doesn't stop all the draught i explained this to my customer, he has in fact rang me yesterday and asked me to take out the flueless fire and replace it with either a BF fire or a FF fire. I feel sorry for this couple, they went to a Fireplace showroom and the advisor sold them a product without even visiting their house or taking any measurements. It's now in the hands of the OFT and trading standard's.

 

[dancinplumba]

Not sure which model it was now gasman, certainly said 100cm2. I agree it doesn't stop all the draught i explained this to my customer, he has in fact rang me yesterday and asked me to take out the flueless fire and replace it with either a BF fire or a FF fire. I feel sorry for this couple, they went to a Fireplace showroom and the advisor sold them a product without even visiting their house or taking any measurements. It's now in the hands of the OFT and trading standard's.

hope they win, i would choose b/f if poss think they are more efficient than f/f

 

[GrahamM]

Just gotto ask whether we are debating Flueess or Catalytic fires, both are 'flueless' but each read from a different page on the hymnsheet.

Does it mater for the point of discussion?
I thought all flueless fires, catalytic and non-catalytic require ventilation.
Can someone upload MI's or a link to enlighten me if I am wrong?

 

[heliotrope]

its a cooker.... pmsl :hurray:

And the winner is...........dancinplumba!

 

[sparra1100]

i wouldnt fit one full stop also as well as the 100cm2 vent your suppose to have back ground heat aswell ie radiator that works wen the fire is on to stop condensation there just to much hassle i just say away from them ad be suprised if you can fit one with no addad ventalation would theink thats a defo no,no ad read the instuctions again cos if your wrong its bye bye people

 

[dancinplumba]

And the winner is...........dancinplumba!

pmsl you fooled em all helio... starman lol