Anyone clued up on mechanics? Peugeot Boxer van question

[armyash]

Got a question about the belt on peugeot boxer. It's the one that goes around the alternator etc. If anyone knows what i'm talking about??

Thanks

 

[armyash]

ahhh you're self employed..... Get ya wallet out mate!

 

[julesverne]

ash its your bosses van its his problem. he's not exactly paying you top whack.
tell the tight erse to get it sorted.

 

[julesverne]

also getting oil all over the alternator can kill it.
i had an oil leak on the rocker cover and found out the hard through being lazy and not sorting it.

 

[Rickster123]

ash its your bosses van its his problem. he's not exactly paying you top whack.
tell the tight erse to get it sorted.

Ive got a fiver says he's a northerner...

 

[gasmanrob]

So has the belt snapped?

If not and its not slipping then as advised check the lead plug and wires.

You should be getting 11-14v from it.

also what's the amperage on the battery like think the pes needs 800amp to crank I've got a spare 12v 1000amp tug boat battery if you want to give that ago to do your testing.

if belt is slipping then just loosen the tensioner bolt pull her tight and fix the tension bolt ensure its not too tight pressing with your thumb on the belt you should get a bit of travel maybe 10mm

 

[rpm]

You said the belt was hard to get on. Never worked on a boxer but generally speaking you slacken off the alternator or tensioner, fit new belt and re tension leaving around 3/8" - 1/2" slack on the untensioned side of the belt. If belt is loose the charging light on the dash comes on and the belt squeals as the revs increase, a belt too tight it can damage the bearings & bushes in the alternator but as said earlier dunno about after 6 months TBH.

Still not your fault to my mind after all would you let van grease monkey work on plumbing?

 

[rpm]

And what`s not to say the the garage has done something whilst they had it for 3 weeks.

 

[Leo21]

Ive got a fiver says he's a northerner...

Id take that bet, but it sounds such a large sum.

 

[armyash]

You said the belt was hard to get on. Never worked on a boxer but generally speaking you slacken off the alternator or tensioner, fit new belt and re tension leaving around 3/8" - 1/2" slack on the untensioned side of the belt. If belt is loose the charging light on the dash comes on and the belt squeals as the revs increase, a belt too tight it can damage the bearings & bushes in the alternator but as said earlier dunno about after 6 months TBH.

Still not your fault to my mind after all would you let van grease monkey work on plumbing?

Van has worked fine since belt was done. About 4 weeks ago on a Friday van started to lose power and cut out, i pulled over. I called the boss and said do you want me to park it up or carry on, he said carry on if it breaks down he can come and tow me.

Engine light came on as this started happening. Had diesel spraying out from injector so this has obviously caused issues too. I went in on the following Monday and said if you need me off work so van can be sorted then no worries (even though i wouldn't be getting paid but i'd deal with it). He said can't afford to have me off. End of that week van dies and now in to fourth week later. I have been getting ferried around by the other guys but that means one man isn't doing any work as he is with me so we are losing money that way.

Boss has been really off with me for a week now, the others think it's because I am not bringing as much money in as usual - nothing i can do about that, I can't be expected to do the same work load without my van and half my stuff. Getting on my nerves.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

the belt on my landys also a ribbed,serpentine,but due to a clever design,probably something to do with needing to remove it quick for wading,it has a lift up adjuster thats spring loaded,it can be changed in 10 mins,but i noticed its got quite a bit of cracking on the rubber already,its only been on 5 months,on the boxer i imagine its tucked away on the engine and hard to get at,could it have snapped ash and if so is there lots of tiny cracks in it?

 

[gasmanrob]

Is it a well known local builder you work for ash? If you don't mind me asking if you do then not to worry

 

[plumben]

Sounds like your boss is a bit of a....
Fair play he lets you use it for personal use but he shouldn't expect you to maintain it,
Maybe pump the tyres up, change a bulb if it blows and check\top the oil and water up
But he should have it sent to a garage for yearly service not expect you to do it,

 

[armyash]

Is it a well known local builder you work for ash? If you don't mind me asking if you do then not to worry

I'd rather not say if that's ok.

Just don't know who knows who and things can get taken out of context if ever repeated. Hope that's understandable.

 

[armyash]

He's a decent bloke and he has let a few things with me slide so I can't complain too much but I just want to go to work, do my job and go home.

I don't think i have ever said anything on here about work that was out of order and I don't know him on a personal level.

Everyone has a moan about work but the last month has drained me.

 

[gasmanrob]

I'd rather not say if that's ok.

Just don't know who knows who and things can get taken out of context if ever repeated. Hope that's understandable.

Of course it is mate.

 

[Rickster123]

He's a decent bloke and he has let a few things with me slide so I can't complain too much but I just want to go to work, do my job and go home.

I don't think i have ever said anything on here about work that was out of order and I don't know him on a personal level.

Everyone has a moan about work but the last month has drained me.

ash you sound like a lovely bloke and it's great that you're not bad mouthing him on here. But don't be a doormat mate.

 

[armyash]

ash you sound like a lovely bloke and it's great that you're not bad mouthing him on here. But don't be a doormat mate.

Thanks. I'm sure i cause him work with my inexperience but i was always honest from the start and I didn't put a gun to his head to give me a job. I don't have anyone coming out with me, I have to get on with it 99% of the time. I've never lied about anything never any need, if i mess up i hold my hands up.

Sometimes I ring him up and ask questions and he obviously wants me to just get on and think for myself - which i do most of the time but sometimes i'd rather ask questions than risk causing damage and costing us money.

 

[Rickster123]

Thanks. I'm sure i cause him work with my inexperience but i was always honest from the start and I didn't put a gun to his head to give me a job. I don't have anyone coming out with me, I have to get on with it 99% of the time. I've never lied about anything never any need, if i mess up i hold my hands up.

Sometimes I ring him up and ask questions and he obviously wants me to just get on and think for myself - which i do most of the time but sometimes i'd rather ask questions than risk causing damage and costing us money.

if you were costing him money and not making him money you'd be down the road by now.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

Thanks. I'm sure i cause him work with my inexperience but i was always honest from the start and I didn't put a gun to his head to give me a job. I don't have anyone coming out with me, I have to get on with it 99% of the time. I've never lied about anything never any need, if i mess up i hold my hands up.

Sometimes I ring him up and ask questions and he obviously wants me to just get on and think for myself - which i do most of the time but sometimes i'd rather ask questions than risk causing damage and costing us money.

being inexperienced is one thing,having somebody trying to pull a fast one is a totally different ball game,you need to put him in his place ash and not get walked over

 

[rpm]

Not that easy when your newish with GF and little one and PAYE I`m afraid.

 

[rpm]

I don't have anyone coming out with me, I have to get on with it 99% of the time. I've never lied about anything never any need, if i mess up i hold my hands up.

With ukpf with you whenever required, you know that yeah?

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

With ukpf with you whenever required, you know that yeah?

what that man said^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[armyash]

Appreciate it! thanks

 

[stevetheplumber]

i had the fiat ducatto 04 which is the same van with the peugeot engine which is pretty much bullet proof when looked after.

problems i have had similar to yours.

charging wire that connects to the alternator broke small white needs re-connecting that stop battery charging up and engine conks out.
earth strap from engine block to the chasis corroded. that plays up with the starter and battery.

never had a problem with the belt.

boss should be having a mechanic sort this not a plumber/heating engineer

fiats and peugeout use different engines the pug and citroens use a ford engine with a timing chain and the ducattos have the iveco engine with a timing belt
a lot of serpentine belts what we used to call a fan belt are directional but i cant see how fitting it reversed would cause damage in fact a lot of mechanics will reverse the belt on a transit to stop them squealing

 

[REDSAW]

i would check if the pretensioner pully has not stuck-slackening off the drive to the alterator through the stretch of the belt and the wires to alternator have good contact.
is your boss a mechanic because he seems to know whats wrong?

 

[julesverne]

fiats and peugeout use different engines the pug and citroens use a ford engine with a timing chain and the ducattos have the iveco engine with a timing belt
a lot of serpentine belts what we used to call a fan belt are directional but i cant see how fitting it reversed would cause damage in fact a lot of mechanics will reverse the belt on a transit to stop them squealing

2.00 hdi engine same as a pug 306 engine and others. mine was an old one 11 yrs old new ones may well use different engines.