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I can see the need to find a better source of heating but all the ashp i have come across humm to blumin loud.A big problem in the uk is that new home's are packed in on new site's,i think the guy from next next door will be out with his baseball bat when his kids can't get to sleep at 10'o clock lol.The goverment has only made thing worse with mcs green deal ect it has put the overall cost of renewables through the roof ie big registration fees for us.:13:
 
Also by offering these incentives (RHI etc) the majority just look at it as an income rather than a long term viable heating solution. A lot are looking at the bottom line figures rather than the best solution for their home. I was all ready to go MCS, I have the QMS in place, i'm a member of REAL and all I had to do was cough up the money and get inspected, but until the attitude of the industry and public changes, i decided to keep the money in the bank.

Solar P.V is a prime example (also been involved in this) as soon as they cut the tariffs the bottom dropped out the market, it's still a very viable solution but the 'return' isn't so generous so people aren't interested. The take up is so slow now the rates are static. People who are buying, are buying for the right reasons though which is good, just not many people buying!

Have you noticed all the solar panel companies now becoming heating experts overnight, biomass, heat pumps. Joe bloggs solar now becoming joe bloggs renewables or whatever, makes me laugh, just jumping on the next gravy train.
 
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We were working next to place where they had several local pv firms into quote. In the end they were rushed with all sorts of deadlines special only till 6.00pm deals This whole thing reminds me of the feeding frenzy that was double glazing and all the others that followed. Watch this space as eventually the tarrif is agreed for the latest round of new nuclear build. It will make air source heat pumps made out of albino unicorns look good value
 
Interesting comments in that report about Combi-boilers saving the public money. A few breakdowns (which with certain brands doesn't take long of course) and suddenly they aren't saving customers any money any more.

I think if the government really is determined to lose gas boilers in new-builds then the future is electric storage boilers and Solar PV panels on the roofs of new homes. Plenty of profit in new-builds to pay for these but will builders want to drop their profits to pay for them? House prices sure won't be going up any time soon.
 
The big difference is between houses towns / cities and stand alone new builds, one gent I know built a 2,000 sq foot bungalow the only heating is a 5Kw stove which is rarely used.

Insulation is the future.
 
The big difference is between houses towns / cities and stand alone new builds, one gent I know built a 2,000 sq foot bungalow the only heating is a 5Kw stove which is rarely used.

Insulation is the future.

Yes if you look at Scandinavia with several feet of high performance insulation it is a heads up to what we will have here as standard new build requirements sooner than we think.
 
There is too much money tied up in the national gas infrastructure for them not to find something else to poke down to the pipe to consumers.

A couple of years ago, up somewhere is the midlands there were using a hydrogen fuel cell to generate electric and heat for a house. The test system was running on natural gas to produce the hydrogen, but the idea was that in future hydrogen would be piped directly in instead of gas.
 
New builds are great for renewables as they are that well insulated but its everybody else whos houses will cost a fortune to get insulated and will pay a fortune for gas instead.

As for electric coming from gas I think in the near future most will come from nuclear power.
depend what you call the near future we were supposed to be building new nuclear stations now but the company that was doing it pulled out so we havent started yet what the need to do is find a way to burn coal without emmissions were sitting on mountains of the stuff
 
depend what you call the near future we were supposed to be building new nuclear stations now but the company that was doing it pulled out so we havent started yet what the need to do is find a way to burn coal without emmissions were sitting on mountains of the stuff

Far as I know it is possible to burn coal without naughty emissions using scrubbers in the flues, Denmark have a lot of power generating incinerators for waste disposal using that technology.

I heard the UK is heading for problems with electricity generation due to a serious lack of investment in new power stations, one of the reasons for the push on wind and PV.
 
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i dont think new builds are major factor for the heating industry .....HA is the one that I will be worried should they start fitting this new invention into the existing properties and I am worried really much what WE will be ripping out in 10 years when it comes to boiler/system upgrades
stainless still cy;linders and lots of 22/15/10 mm plastic pipes .....who knows price of plastic my rich the sky and copper to be as expensive as gold !
BG will be called
British Air Source
 
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