ratchet pipeslice

[johnnyplumb]

anyone got one of these Ratchet Action Copper Tube Cutters - 15mm | Cutters | Corgi Direct

just wondering if they are any better than a normal pipeslice.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

But the alligator is a different tool completely, their grips whilst the other one is a spanner.

Must say I like the look of them.

same **** different teeth

 

[Mickyplumb]

they look the dogs but i have used the alligator for donkeys years,would be hard for me to convert

Am I wrong or are the Alligators jaws fitted with teeth ? I think the argument that Knipex etc are using is that because the handles on the standard format of pump pliers are direct action (no lever multiplication ) then they need the teeth to get the grip because jaw clamping force isn't sufficient in itself to grip the fitting. Also, with direct action ( non parallel jaws) then even if you took the teeth of off the pump pliers then the chances of your jaws being perfectly parallel with the flats of the hex fitting is zero. Also, my train of thought is why would I ever use toothed pump pliers on a fitting if there was an alternative ? Having played with some that my buddy has got, it's a bit like being in the situation where a nut is so seized, it is untrue. So, you put your best Bahco's or Irega's or whatever on the nut and are pushing like crazy thinking that any second it's going to slip and destroy your knuckles. Well, with these, you would simple squeeze a little tighter knowing that whatever you're doing is multiplied by 10 ! I think it's the sort of tool that give you confidence to undo anything, no matter how tight. Just my opinion though.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

tbh been in this game a long time anything with a ratchet dont impress me much those robogrips where one cack example (ask tamz his views ) if i caNT UNDO IT WITH A KNIPEX OR BACHOS I EITHER GET OUT THE FOOTPRINTS OR THE STILSONS,a stillsons never fails especially when it has a bar or hammer on the end of it,but if this ratchet stuff works for you and makes you more efficient then good on you,it has after all taken me 4 years to see the virtues of a oscillating cutter

 

[Mickyplumb]

tbh been in this game a long time anything with a ratchet dont impress me much those robogrips where one cack example (ask tamz his views ) if i caNT UNDO IT WITH A KNIPEX OR BACHOS I EITHER GET OUT THE FOOTPRINTS OR THE STILSONS,a stillsons never fails especially when it has a bar or hammer on the end of it,but if this ratchet stuff works for you and makes you more efficient then good on you,it has after all taken me 4 years to see the virtues of a oscillating cutter

There's another debate, stilsons, rigid, footprints .... Thank heavens for the choice !

 

[SafeGasInstall]

out of all i think the spanner is a good one !

 

[SafeGasInstall]

i will probably wait till bahco bring one out

 

[tamz]

like the look of this though looks like my old hilmor

If it is made (rebranded) by rothenberg it is shyte and robogrips must have been at the top of the shyte list!

If you want a decent set of adjustable cutters look for these

They used to have (well mine have) an alloy handle but i see they are now plastic. I suppose that is what is called progress!
The knipex (K nipex!!! why don't they get someone who can say the word to advertise it) grips in the link above are good (for polished fittings) but no better gripping (infact probably less so) than a set of alligators or cobras. Mine only get used on chrome nuts and the like.
If you want something that will never ever slip because it is an impossibility, use stilsons.

 

[Mickyplumb]

If it is made (rebranded) by rothenberg it is shyte and robogrips must have been at the top of the shyte list!

If you want a decent set of adjustable cutters look for these
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They used to have (well mine have) an alloy handle but i see they are now plastic. I suppose that is what is called progress!
The knipex (K nipex!!! why don't they get someone who can say the word to advertise it) grips in the link above are good (for polished fittings) but no better gripping (infact probably less so) than a set of alligators or cobras. Mine only get used on chrome nuts and the like.
If you want something that will never ever slip because it is an impossibility, use stilsons.

The knipex type are only meant for fittings, no good on a bit of barrel, obviously. Give them a try, really, so much tighter grip than alligators or cobras. I'm working with my buddy today that's got a set, I video a short demo if I can. They are good guys.

 

[stevetheplumber]

stilsons and foot prints lock on end of story but i can see the cam action spanner looks good