bg scrappage scheme

[gaspastemania]

Been hearing an advert on the radio quite alot lately about british gas boiler scrappage , get a worcester installed and get £400 off or £200 on any other leading boiler . So that must bring the price they charge for a boiler upgrade down to about £5000 then !!!

Speaking to some bg engineers i know tho and they say they get told condemn or say they dont make that part anymore so they get to quote boiler upgrade .So i guess thats the catch condemn boiler put frightners on cust then hit them with a big bill for boiler upgrade.

 

[plumbdoctor]

whats that got to do with flushing a system, most are blocked due to incorrect piping so ur be changing a lot of pumps mate, bg are expensive but you have the cover every patch has there good and bad dont know why people get so against them( and i dont wrk for them so got no reason to back them) my 5 years acs was up few months ago and its the teachers letting the muppets pass that need to be sorted out people who are gas safe cant even do a proper tightness test.......shocking

 

[tamz]

Not so much the teachers but the whole system that is at fault. A paper qual does not make a tradesman.

 

[RoryD]

Not all BG guys are bad. There are 1000's of good ones but also 1000's of bad ones.
BG's biggest problem regarding sales is they pay commision on leads and the fitters have to sell, even if it is only a CO detector.
Given the way things are these days who can blame the poor fitters from trying to condemn and sell (recommend) at every opportunity. Not all will or do but the temptation is there.
As for powerflushes they have to give a lifetime guarantee as they will more than likely be back to it. Treating the symptom without fixing the underlying problem never works.

Best Advice is what it says Tamz, I would expect every house with a gas appliance to have a CO detector, HSE are massive on this. Prevention is always better than cure so, reconfigs, flushes etc are options that customers are not aware of until we go there, that's wrong, lets keep them trouble free. If I was on my own - present economics stopped that!!- I'd do the same. Have to agree that there are those that abuse the system through lack of experience or downright badness, they are everywhere but honestly mate they're a minority

 

[cr0ft]

Hmm. I wouldn't normally get involved with slagging off British Gas or any other company so I'll keep this factual and from experience.

Went to a quote the other day. Customer had just had a condensing boiler (heat only) installed by British Gas. He has low-pressure hot and mains-pressure cold throughout the house. His upstairs shower doesn't work properly due to requiring a minimum pressure not possible with a header tank 1 metre above it

He wanted a combi-boiler but British Gas told him he didn't have a good enough incoming mains for this. I thought I would do a flow rate test and pressure test while I was there. With 2 taps open - 12 litres per minute measured at the kitchen sink. 4.5 bars of pressure measured at the garden tap. Time? Oh yes, 5pm so peak usage time.

Then I realised that no TRVs had been fitted to any radiators, making the whole installation illegal.

I'm about to quote and give my findings with a view to getting him the combi-boiler he should have. Otherwise he is going to have to go for a shower pump as well.

Wasn't very impressed with them from what I have seen but mine may be an isolated incident!

 

[gaspastemania]

Its customers discretion to have TRV'S installed on the system . Had this one before with gas safe and they state its not a prerequisite.

 

[RoryD]

Hmm. I wouldn't normally get involved with slagging off British Gas or any other company so I'll keep this factual and from experience.

Went to a quote the other day. Customer had just had a condensing boiler (heat only) installed by British Gas. He has low-pressure hot and mains-pressure cold throughout the house. His upstairs shower doesn't work properly due to requiring a minimum pressure not possible with a header tank 1 metre above it

He wanted a combi-boiler but British Gas told him he didn't have a good enough incoming mains for this. I thought I would do a flow rate test and pressure test while I was there. With 2 taps open - 12 litres per minute measured at the kitchen sink. 4.5 bars of pressure measured at the garden tap. Time? Oh yes, 5pm so peak usage time.

Then I realised that no TRVs had been fitted to any radiators, making the whole installation illegal.

I'm about to quote and give my findings with a view to getting him the combi-boiler he should have. Otherwise he is going to have to go for a shower pump as well.

Wasn't very impressed with them from what I have seen but mine may be an isolated incident!

Doesn't sound good eh? don't think it's illegal not to have TRV's on an existing system tho

 

[tamz]

The shower wouldn't have worked before the boiler swap so that is down to whoever installed it in the first place. The cust would have been advised to fit trvs at the time (no salesman will miss an opportunity) but if they declined you can't force them.
Instead of fitting a shower pump or new combi, consider a venturi shower.

Rory
There is good and bad in every part of the trade. I personally know a few BG, well SG guys up here, and they are great at what they do. The performance targets don't bother them too much but they are older and wise enough to deal with it.

 

[GasmanxxxR1]

"Then I realised that no TRVs had been fitted to any radiators, making the whole installation illegal."

Are you sure you know what youre talking about. Dont slag off others when you are wrong

 

[GasmanxxxR1]

How about getting back on topic: BG and worcester scrappage scheme