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Despite what anyone else says denying it, this is infact completley true
Thank you for that info. I'm still a little confused though!
It seems now that the setup costs are £1,200 and ongoing £550 instead of me thinking it was £1,100 and £400. This, though doesn't include the course costs of £300 each (which is where my £2,100 came from). REAL's subscription for 1-6 employees is £220. So total for the first year is now £1,200 plus £400, plus £220, plus £300, plus £300 equalling £2,420. Hopefully that's including VAT because if not then we're talking about £2,904.
The last part of my quote was asking if there are other costs. There's Gassafe for gas, OFTEC for oil and HETAS for solid fuel. These bodies have inspectors to ensure the standards are maintained by the installers.
Who is the renewables industry "policed" by? Is it the local council or someone else? Is it REAL?
Looking on REAL's website there's an audit form of 10 pages of questions. One question (picked at random) is:
Is a record systematically kept of time spent in a consumer’s premises? If this exceeds two hours, is the reason for this recorded and correlated with the record of any requests to cancel the contract?
Is this the same as the MCS QMS? And if so, do we have to do both?
Once again, I'm sorry, but I'm becoming really confused now!!
Finally, are these the ONLY costs? Does this price mean that I can LEGALLY sign off work and my customers can benefit from the feed-in-tarriff or whatever government grant systems there are? Do I have to re-train every so many years?
Don't understand your comments re people adopting systems. Surely the services you would offer would come from your own template that you are selling to companies/individuals after fine tuning. Surely the inspecting bodies would also like some sort of commonality to make their jobs easier.
If I remember back to the company I served my time with, when they went down the Quality Assured route it was basically a set of 15 files for each contract. The auditors wanted commanality.
surely most companies operate in much the same way therefore what works for one will work for all. the paper trail is much the same as bsi 9001 quality control if you use that system you shouldn't have any problems with mcs.
The thing that pi***s me off is you dont need any plumbing qualifications to be registered as an installer for any renewables so how can mcs be a guarantee of a quality installation when the installer might be good at paperwork but not have a clue about installation.
The QMS is designed to ensure your company has the structure in place to offer these technologies, install them following the correct regulations and provides protection to you, the consumer and the government. The scheme is designed to show that installers who are on it not only install to a minimum quality but the company itself has minimum standards in place.
All that sex and ****! how do you have time to eat!
I am from the writting on the back of bit of paper old reciepts anything that comes to hand realy, but it is not up to MCS standard. I know what Im suppost to do if I get an enquiry, I have enquiry forms to fill in, all the customer details inc. post code, email address, time and date of call etc, etc.
The lady that is trying to get me sorted for Mcs certification tears her hair out when i give her a bit of paper from the floor of me van and it says "Bill 01********** heat pump/ solar" but I will get there eventually......
Just to clarify this is in fact not true as you have to show competency on the technology you are installing and on a technology like heat pumps this includes qualifications like G3 regs etc.
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