Is my apprentice taking drugs?

[Stanios]

Hi everyone, a bit of an unusual post again but really at a loos with this one.
I'm a little paranoid since I've worked for, and with cocaine addicts and saw how the drug direclty impacted the work of the users so please also forgive me if my post stigmatising the drug I am sure it can be taken recreationally without wrecking your life (if anything it will help my thread if you have experience with the drug which I do not).

Moving on to my apprentice who has been with me for a year, he is only 19 and real hard worker (works weekends doing catering when I am off, so 7 days a week some days). Never noticed any signs of drug use at work. However he works ALL THE TIME he is making £300 weekly minimum has no rent to pay no bills he lives with parents yet he is broke. I pay him weekly so it cant be bad management of money its constant expenditure. When I was his age I wouldn't dream of spending 300 quid a month nevermind a week. His only outgoing is car insurance which is around £200 a month I pay petrol. Just yesterday he messaged me asking to be paid 4 days in advance (again i pay him weekly!).

Second worrying sign is while he is keen at work he doesnt take any interest in plumbing outside. The college refused to take him one day a week and handed over whole teaching responsibility to me for the year. When I was apprentice I was all over my boss asking when we can do this visit and this portfolio etc. he hasnt asked once. I actually message assessors myself and do all the chasing etc.

When I talked about drugs with him and told him how coke can Damn up your life he admitted some of his mates used it as well as other drugs but I havn't asked him directly if he did it.

I am looking to buy second van for him to do independent work soon but my suspicions are really discouraging me to risk / invest my money that way. (also his insurance for the van is going to be 4k a year). If you have experience with the drug or working with someone dependent how badly in your experience does it affect work?

Cheers.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Are we still on about this???

 

[firemant]

I employed a woman in our shop. She was in her 40's and a single mum. She started to date some guy. One morning her nose was bleeding. My wife sorted her out and said that was weird. She replied that she had started to try Coke. My wife asked why, and she said her BF was into it and she thought she would try it.

She had to go. She had our shop keys and babysat for our nippers, and we were not waiting for any serious fallout.

 

[oz-plumber]

One way to find out without intruding on his privacy..

Keep employing him for the interim and see if things start disappearing.
Like money from you van / wallet, items that you have that can be sold easily.
Customers might call you to ask if saw something that they now find missing. Like a wallet or purse!!!

Most addicts ( not saying your apprentice is and addict ) are fine when they can maintain their habit financially, it's when they can't maintain their habit financially they become a problem.

 

[Millsy 82]

One way to find out without intruding on his privacy..

Keep employing him for the interim and see if things start disappearing.
Like money from you van / wallet, items that you have that can be sold easily.
Customers might call you to ask if saw something that they now find missing. Like a wallet or purse!!!

Most addicts ( not saying your apprentice is and addict ) are fine when they can maintain their habit financially, it's when they can't maintain their habit financially they become a problem.

Or just see if they fall down the toilet trainspotting style.

Come on not every body is a stereo type. Do you walk round upside down with a cork hat and saying strewth whilst swigging your fosters.

I started smoking weed when I was 16 between the age of 17 and 21 I probably took enough pills to kill off the kangaroo population chuck in a bit of speed over that time, always turned down smack as didnt look my kind of thing and couldn't afford coke back then. I cut down most drugs at age 21 apart from weed because my son was born and still did the occasional pill and then the odd bit of coke as we were starting to get that a bit cheaper.

A large amount of my friends still use drugs recreationally and out of everybody I used to hang around with back then 2 became heroin addicts over the space of 2 years and I know of 1 coke addict. Out of those 3 they all still worked to fund their habit and never stole a penny to fund their habit.

I know of 2 people that got sent to prison and blamed having to steal on being an addict but they were thieving scrotes before and after they were addicts.

The rest of my friends just use drugs and have fun they dont steal, they dont fight, dont hang around in gangs dont carry knives. They just work hard and have fun.

Now let's talk about alcohol I can walk down my local high street and get abused by the local p**s heads, over the last 4 years I have buried 5 members of our family 3 of which was solely down to alcohol abuse. Go out on a friday/ Saturday night and the streets are filled with people throwing up, fighting and passed out. And I know of loads ofpeople that alcohol has ruined their lives.

But alcohol is legal so its fine

 

[MOSSEP]

I agree with Millsy, all sorts of folk take 'drugs' everyday - alcohol, nicotine, pain killers, caffeine and cannot function without them. As soon as they are confronted with a 'drug' that is not legal but some definition drawn up by a government, they can get very pious about it.

Most people do it for fun and have no issue at all, unless its really affecting someones work then I'd not worry about it.

 

[Welder]

When you look at how many people are still killed through smoking it 9isses me right off...

 

[Deleted member 96286]

When you look at how many people are still killed through smoking it 9isses me right off...

Nicotene is one of the highest addictive drugs commonly in use, and a by product of tobacco products, and yet neither tobacco or nicotene have the same stigma as other so called recreational drugs.

• Tobacco kills up to half of its users.
• Tobacco kills more than 8 million people each year. More than 7 million of those deaths are the result of direct tobacco use while around 1.2 million are the result of non-smokers being exposed to second-hand smoke.

 

[Phil]

When I was an apprentice I blew my wage every weekend on drink and stuff, I was so skint Tuesday onwards I used to roam the streets and pick up dockers.

 

[Sharp Point]

Or just see if they fall down the toilet trainspotting style.

Come on not every body is a stereo type. Do you walk round upside down with a cork hat and saying strewth whilst swigging your fosters.

I started smoking weed when I was 16 between the age of 17 and 21 I probably took enough pills to kill off the kangaroo population chuck in a bit of speed over that time, always turned down smack as didnt look my kind of thing and couldn't afford coke back then. I cut down most drugs at age 21 apart from weed because my son was born and still did the occasional pill and then the odd bit of coke as we were starting to get that a bit cheaper.

A large amount of my friends still use drugs recreationally and out of everybody I used to hang around with back then 2 became heroin addicts over the space of 2 years and I know of 1 coke addict. Out of those 3 they all still worked to fund their habit and never stole a penny to fund their habit.

I know of 2 people that got sent to prison and blamed having to steal on being an addict but they were thieving scrotes before and after they were addicts.

The rest of my friends just use drugs and have fun they dont steal, they dont fight, dont hang around in gangs dont carry knives. They just work hard and have fun.

Now let's talk about alcohol I can walk down my local high street and get abused by the local p**s heads, over the last 4 years I have buried 5 members of our family 3 of which was solely down to alcohol abuse. Go out on a friday/ Saturday night and the streets are filled with people throwing up, fighting and passed out. And I know of loads ofpeople that alcohol has ruined their lives.

But alcohol is legal so its fine

love you bro, we could’ve been proper pals
Hell, where do you think society arose from? Ideas from expanded brains!
Again this f@cking stupid 180 second rule, good job really... coz I’m mullered and impatient.

‘ eat the rich’

love you bro, we could’ve been proper pals
Hell, where do you think society arose from? Ideas from expanded brains!
Again this f@cking stupid 180 second rule, good job really... coz I’m mullered and impatient.

‘ eat the rich’

love you bro, we could’ve been proper pals
Hell, where do you think society arose from? Ideas from expanded brains!
Again this f@cking stupid 180 second rule, good job really... coz I’m mullered and impatient.

‘ eat the rich’

I’m off to YouTube... old school progressive house

With vodka