Heard the news today?

[snowhead]

Maybe it's a good thing they are becoming compulsory

To be able to use, not neccessarily to actually use


The boiler was in the garage; (Independant)

Miss Anderson died within just 30 minutes of being exposed to the carbon monoxide after fumes leaked from the flue pipe connected to the boiler in the garage of the Victorian townhouse.

 

[mutley racers]

what's that snowhead, it is only compulsory to understand how to use them? I thought you were not allowed to work on fires or boilers without them? That is what I was told any way

 

[snowhead]

You're not allowed to leave an incomplete flue, but people do.

Just because people are trained doesn't mean they always abide by the training.

 

[TBServices]

what's that snowhead, it is only compulsory to understand how to use them? I thought you were not allowed to work on fires or boilers without them? That is what I was told any way

You need the CPA1 qualification, but you don't legally have to own/use an analyser.


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[mutley racers]

oh i see. I thought you had to use it. Cheers for clearing that up guys

 

[GasSafePR]

Hello all, there will be an article about this prosecution in the next Registered Gas Engineer magazine, including a look at the specific technical issues. The issue is being finalised now and the magazine posted out at the end of the month.

GasSafePR

 

[TBServices]

Thanks for the heads up. I'm sure we'll all be reading with particular interest.


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[CCN1 Assessor]

You need the CPA1 qualification, but you don't legally have to own/use an analyser.


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Beg to Differ, IF the manufacturers instructions specify the testing of POC then you DO LEGALLY have to use an analyser, all boiler manufacturers do give CO/CO2 ratio's so yes you do have to OWN (or hire) and use one. The CPA1 is now part of the CCN1 assessment.

This engineer deserves what he got, no excuses for missing the screws from the flue, shortcuts etc.

The HSE would have looked at the assessment centre that recommended him for certification to check that they are meeting the correct standards regarding the assessments, if found lacking they will also be held responsible.
Rob

 

[Puddle]

Beg to Differ, IF the manufacturers instructions specify the testing of POC then you DO LEGALLY have to use an analyser, all boiler manufacturers do give CO/CO2 ratio's so yes you do have to OWN (or hire) and use one. The CPA1 is now part of the CCN1 assessment.

This engineer deserves what he got, no excuses for missing the screws from the flue, shortcuts etc.


Rob

'If manufactures specify '

I think you will find a lot of manufacturers surprisenly at the moment do no require the installer the use an analyser for initial instalation maybe this will change once one manufacturer is brave enough to make it so

So you intact do not need to buy beg or borrow an analyser at the moment

Think you are guilty of scare mongering here and mixing maybe good practice with legal responsibility to make your point

As for engineer got what he deserved,that is your opinion ,with limited facts,the judge
gave the minimum he could and it seems from reports,if he could of given a leaner punishment he would have,I personally hope with good behaviour ect he will soon be out and back with his family

Imho

 

[CCN1 Assessor]

'If manufactures specify '

I think you will find a lot of manufacturers surprisenly at the moment do no require the installer the use an analyser for inishal instalation maybe this will change once one manufacturer is brave enough to make it so

So you intact do not need to buy beg or borrow an analyser at the moment

Think you are guilty of scar mongering here and mixing maybe good practice with legal responsibility to make your point

As for engineer got what he deserved,that is your opinion ,with limited facts,the judge
gave the minimum he could and it seems from reports,if he could of given a leaner punishment he would have,I personally hope with good behaviour ect he will soon be out and back with his family

Imho

Look on the benchmark paperwork, there is a field to fill in regarding CO/CO2 ratio, at present it is a split between maunufacturers if it is needed for installing them but it is required when perfoming a service.

You hope he is soon back with his family, maybe you could get him round to install a boiler for you when he gets out, what about the family of the girl he KILLED, will they ever get her back, no, i know no punishment will ever bring her back but should he just be allowed to carry on as if nothing had happened.