allowed drop when doing a tightness test...

[rickstar88]

Hi all,just thought id mention this because i had a heated debate with 2 other gas engineers about the drop allowance when doing a tightness test.Last week 1 of the engineers left a 2 millibar drop at a property and said it was fine to do so as it was a g4 meter..i said ok but could you isolate all the appliances,he said yes...then i said well if you isolate all of them and then do another tightness test and it still drops 2 millbar then your not allowed to leave it because your not allowed ANY drop on pipework OLD or NEW,he said your allowed up to 4 millibar on a g4 meter in all cases...so to back my point up i got him to ring gas safe and they told him he was wrong...just thought id mention it incase any other engineers have been doing the same thing...let me know your views and what you think....

 

[tamz]

It tastes like cats pysh. Never drunk it for about 30 years. Tasted better mixed with Volare (cheap red wine) but got you off your nut quick.
They sell it by the half gill (about 70mil in new money) in a lot of pubs from Salsburgh (look that place up on google earth but don't drive through it unless you are in a Saracen The original 1 horse town) to Glasgow.

Still enjoyed by the young ones who think they are doing something new

 

[shorticus]

saw a program on tv about it, apparently it's made by monks and has huge amounts of caffiene in it as well as being pretty strong, I'd have probably tried it in my youth but I think I'd pass these days, getting a bit fragile in my old age

 

[tamz]

It is indeed made by monks from a place in Devon?? called Buckfast Abbey. About 15% but when you tan 3 bottles or so it is lethal. Also known as "wreck the hoose juice"
Just try it for the experience It is (was) a good dunt. Put it in the fridge first

Canny believe i'm encouraging Buckfast

 

[Reg Man]

I love the literary scotts accent. I finished for tonight. Going up the apple & pears for a Bo peep.

 

[tamz]

So am i. Got the Santa duties tomorrow for the weans and an early night for a 3am rise.


Still got the vat to finish too..................easily distracted

 

[tamz]

I love the literary scotts accent. I finished for tonight. Going up the apple & pears for a Bo peep.

It comes out after i have a few halfs. No work tomorrow. Tools packed away until the 6th

 

[gbgas001]

Hmmm..Ok so youve found a leak "within limits" on a gas carcass conected to a boiler, the boiler has an iso valve on it, where does it then say that you Have to then isolate the apliance and test again?. ( I will always Isolate first afetr finding a drop btw) Iam genuinly just interested.

It doesnt say to do that anywhere... but how many of you would leave a 2mb drop anyway... i certainly couldnt, sphinkter reverberation syndrome always makes me find the drop. So the regulations have you captured into doing it safely

gb-gas

 

[shorticus]

Canny believe i'm encouraging Buckfast

Niethier can I, you're a bad man Tamz! lol

P.S. Might have to give it go sometime now ha ha )

 

[GQuigley67]

buckfasts disgustin!!! used to drink it all the time, still do occasionally but don't enjoy the taste whatsover

as for the streotype that buckfast makes you go nuts i disagree, give me sum vodka and i go nuts...not buckfast

 

[kirkgas]

i live in Coatbridge which has/had the uneviable title as being the town which consumed most buckfast per head of population in the whole of Britain, and i might add someone is drinking mine as i have NEVER let one drop pass my lips, there are a load of pubs up here which have it on the optics as well, ii am sick of the sight of seeing the smashed green glass every where, i wish they would sell it in plastic bottles to save on the mess and damage when someone gets skelped over the head by a bottle as well

 

[GQuigley67]

i live in Coatbridge which has/had the uneviable title as being the town which consumed most buckfast per head of population in the whole of Britain, and i might add someone is drinking mine as i have NEVER let one drop pass my lips, there are a load of pubs up here which have it on the optics as well, ii am sick of the sight of seeing the smashed green glass every where, i wish they would sell it in plastic bottles to save on the mess and damage when someone gets skelped over the head by a bottle as well

i agree about the plastic bottles, should sell plastic tumblers etc in the pubs also seen so much damage with glass.

So what is the conclusion on this thread then ? is it that the regs say you don't need to trace out a drop as long as its within the limits and theres no smell of gas ? but your recommended to do so to cover your own bum ?

 

[kirkgas]

i agree about the plastic bottles, should sell plastic tumblers etc in the pubs also seen so much damage with glass.

So what is the conclusion on this thread then ? is it that the regs say you don't need to trace out a drop as long as its within the limits and theres no smell of gas ? but your recommended to do so to cover your own bum ?

yes on a private job, personally i say you have to do TT on LGSC to cover landlords legal responsibility via you

 

[shorticus]

yes on a private job, personally i say you have to do TT on LGSC to cover landlords legal responsibility via you

Kirkgas, at the risk of milking this to cheese you would say not to do a full TT on a service though? I'm perhaps re-thinking my approach that's why I'm asking..

 

[GQuigley67]

but i think the initial point of the post was(had to read it again) is that the engineer said it was ok to have a 4mb drop on the old pipework even with the appliances isolated..thats definetely a no no then isnt it

 

[kirkgas]

Kirkgas, at the risk of milking this to cheese you would say not to do a full TT on a service though? I'm perhaps re-thinking my approach that's why I'm asking..

i dont do a TT unless it is mandatory, or discussed before hand with the customer fully aware of the potential invoice, you either do what i do and comply fully with the regs, or you go the whole hog and TT with appliances connected, then isolated then either repair the leak or cap the gas, you cant stop somewhere in the middle, it isnt for me to decide i will do more work than the law says and therefore cost a client £100's, and i will say that if someone else did it and i was asked about it i would def tell the client that the work (although done with the best intentions) was nnot necessary and the customer has been left without gas and/or a large invoice,

 

[kirkgas]

but i think the initial point of the post was(had to read it again) is that the engineer said it was ok to have a 4mb drop on the old pipework even with the appliances isolated..thats definetely a no no then isnt it

im not reading the whole post again, but i will answer your Q here, you are right it is a def no-no to leave ANY leak on a pipe only, (thats why a lot of people test existing carcass and existing appliances with the appliances connected, so that if there is a small leak it can be left operating)

 

[plumbster3456]

thats it concluded then 4 mb drop on gas carcas with appliances isolated is definite no no and you must do a tt on a lgsc (the people who say you dont are wrong) and also buck fast is scotlands finest brew even if kirky doesnt think so hehe.
you should try it kirk gas its brilliant before the celtic game haha

 

[GQuigley67]

im not reading the whole post again, but i will answer your Q here, you are right it is a def no-no to leave ANY leak on a pipe only, (thats why a lot of people test existing carcass and existing appliances with the appliances connected, so that if there is a small leak it can be left operating)

no i mean i just read the original post and that's what the arguement was about, he said you can't have a 4mb drop on old or existing pipework and the other engineer said that you can as long as its a g4 meter, even with appliances isolated

I'm glad i missed that celtic game anyhow ! doing a good job of throwing it away this year...

 

[plumbster3456]

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I'm glad i missed that celtic game anyhow ! doing a good job of throwing it away this year...[/QUOTE]

yes i know maybe thats why we need the buckfast

 

[GQuigley67]

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yes i know maybe thats why we need the buckfast

yeh to hit the players over the head haha

 

[kirkgas]

thats it concluded then 4 mb drop on gas carcas with appliances isolated is definite no no and you must do a tt on a lgsc (the people who say you dont are wrong) and also buck fast is scotlands finest brew even if kirky doesnt think so hehe.
you should try it kirk gas its brilliant before the celtic game haha

here i might stay in coatbridge but the monks dont make enough wine in a year that would make me go to a celtic game unless it was against the current league leaders, (although i would risk going to see them
at parkhead the now as they cannae buy a win there), roll on the old firm game
haha

 

[plumbster3456]

here i might stay in coatbridge but the monks dont make enough wine in a year that would make me go to a celtic game unless it was against the current league leaders, (although i would risk going to see them
at parkhead the now as they cannae buy a win there), roll on the old firm game
haha

think you the first rangers fan i ever heard who lives in coatbridge ha... roll on the old firm even though am slightly dreading it we better get our finger out or else we will be even more behind you mon the hoops