Brother Refurb

[jaydebruyne]

I'll be adding question after question to this thread (sorry), I'd really appreciate the help!

So in my brothers refurb I'm putting in a new boiler and repiping everything - heating and water. I'm converting a conventional system to a combi.

He now wants the boiler in the loft which is fine (it's currently in the kitchen), gonna get a roofer to sort the roof out for a vertical flue and depending on how near the adjacent chimney is in the house next door I'm gonna put the boiler either on the back wall or the perpendicular wall to the left - see pic



A builder told my brother that he would have to build a stud wall for the boiler to hang on - I don't believe this is required and don't see why it can't be hung directly to the wall.

Am I right or wrong?

 

[jaydebruyne]

Yea need to clip them something like every 6' ish

I take it this is cross beam? Most of pipework is 8mm :/

 

[ShaunCorbs]

In a way yes but mean more like this



See the timber on the bottom of the pic with hair felt on like that for anything like 15-22mm if using 8-10mm just clip it on the side of the joists

 

[jaydebruyne]

In a way yes but mean more like this

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See the timber on the bottom of the pic with hair felt on like that for anything like 15-22mm if using 8-10mm just clip it on the side of the joists

Ah ok... I'll see in the morning what route I'll take.. Thanks Shaun

 

[jaydebruyne]

Last question, sorry, why is it you put felt at each joist/clip??

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Last question, sorry, why is it you put felt at each joist/clip??

Not a problem Stop noise and allow for expansion (no squeaks when heating up of solid pipes eg 15-22mm etc)

 

[jaydebruyne]

Not a problem Stop noise and allow for expansion (no squeaks when heating up of solid pipes eg 15-22mm etc)

Ah ok.. I've got to run the heating pipe above the boiler and the gas/water below, it's gonna look a bit pooh with a filter above the boiler :/ also makes a filling loop a bit of a challenge - think I'll have to have a rethink in the morning

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Ah ok.. I've got to run the heating pipe above the boiler and the gas/water below, it's gonna look a bit pooh with a filter above the boiler :/ also makes a filling loop a bit of a challenge - think I'll have to have a rethink in the morning

Tbh you will be fine what boiler has he gone for ?

 

[jaydebruyne]

Tbh you will be fine what boiler has he gone for ?

Greenstar 25i -

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Greenstar 25i -

Use there internal filling loop new design should come with the boiler

 

[Destroyer2813]

Use there internal filling loop new design should come with the boiler

Only on the cdi's you get a loop with the boiler

 

[jaydebruyne]

Use there internal filling loop new design should come with the boiler

I'll see if PlumbCenter has it in stock - fingers crossed

 

[mfgs]

It doesn't come with the boiler, but just buy an internal one.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Use there internal filling loop new design should come with the boiler

You sure I'm sure they new keyless one came with the new junior Is ?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

I'll see if PlumbCenter has it in stock - fingers crossed

If you get stuck I've got plenty of the old type if you want one ( the key ones)

 

[jaydebruyne]

If you get stuck I've got plenty of the old type if you want one ( the key ones)

Just got a keyless one.. Cheers though mate.

 

[jaydebruyne]

Progress report: boilers hung boiler, removed rest of redundant pipework, started piping up main run

I'm slow with pipework so I'm running behind now - tomorrow is my last full day to get everything done :/

 

[Destroyer2813]

Just got a keyless one.. Cheers though mate.

A off cut of 22 fits nicely to allow you to fill up by yourself without it going mad when you get round to filling up

 

[ShaunCorbs]

looks fine jay who drilled the flue hole wrong

and you do know the filter could be put inline ? (didnt need to use the pieces of pipe that come with it)

 

[jaydebruyne]

looks fine jay who drilled the flue hole wrong

and you do know the filter could be put inline ? (didnt need to use the pieces of pipe that come with it)

Haha though I'd put in some natural draft ventilation!!

I'm stuck on something: 5th picture down. I've got to tee off to the notched joist to run it along towards the wall but it's clipped so close - not sure how to get round this???

 

[ShaunCorbs]

this one jay?



would do it like this if i understand right

 

[jaydebruyne]

this one jay?

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would do it like this if i understand right

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Yup ... That makes sense! I just didn't know if it was bad to come out like that.. Cheers Shaun

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Yup ... That makes sense! I just didn't know if it was bad to come out like that.. Cheers Shaun

no your fine and your doing well good job

 

[jaydebruyne]

no your fine and your doing well good job

Ah cheers mate, I really appreciate it..

 

[tamz]

Just for future reference. Never cut a line of boards between joists like that.
A) there really is no need
B) you weaken the structure

Apart from that you're doing fine

 

[jaydebruyne]

Just for future reference. Never cut a line of boards between joists like that.
A) there really is no need
B) you weaken the structure

Apart from that you're doing fine

How do you feed in lengths of copper though if you only take up a cut every meter or so?

 

[tamz]

Very easily unless it is a soil pipe. A 10ft length will easily go in 3 boards.

Its a pet hate of mine and a sackable offence if i see it

 

[jaydebruyne]

Very easily unless it is a soil pipe. A 10ft length will easily go in 3 boards.

Its a pet hate of mine and a sackable offence if i see it

Thing is, there was only a small hole under the wall to feed the pipes through - I'll consider myself sacked then :O

 

[tamz]

Haha you would have been lol

 

[jaydebruyne]

Haha you would have been lol

Lol at least I know for next time, cheers Tamz

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Very easily unless it is a soil pipe. A 10ft length will easily go in 3 boards.

Its a pet hate of mine and a sackable offence if i see it

im sorry but thats stupid how you going to clip it in the middle you cant

its down to personal preference if its easier to take a run of boards up take them up, its not going to weaken the joists