Hep2o pipe inserts?

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Now I have always and will always continue to use the hep2o pipe inserts on every single fittings, however a tiler who dabbles in the odd bit of plumbing now and again said he has NEVER used one when he has been using hep2o fittings but does use them for compression fittings. Now surely you need to use them on hep fittings aswell not just when you are crimping the pipework? I wouldn't feel safe in my house if he had been there that's for sure.

anyone know if maybe you don't need to? Or will get a few angry phone calls eventually?
 
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It depends on the Manufacturers Instructions.

If they deem them necessary, then you have to use them.
If you don't and there is a problem, you will be informed by the manufacturer that you haven't installed their pipe correctly.

Angry phone calls will probably be the least of your worries then.
 
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Always use them! They make sure the pipe doesn't distort under heat and release the gripper and off blows the fitting.
They also cover the end of the pipe, kind of like shamfearing (spelt wrong I know) to protect the 'o' ring.
 
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Yea I knew all this but glad to see other people think he's as stupid as I am, now I know they are a bit of a rip off and them 50 in a bag don't last long but better than having a flooded house.
 
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Had a chat with the speedfit reps about this.

they awkwardly said that without the liners and under continuous heat with no "relaxation" time the pipe can oval slightly with a liner and leak, without one it just pulls off

its also linked to why you cant use plastic with secondary returns
 
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Yea I don't use hep on speed fit the insert goes in to easy I use compression as I don't carry speed fit with me as I hate it.
 
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Killy Bing said:
Had a chat with the speedfit reps about this.

they awkwardly said that without the liners and under continuous heat with no "relaxation" time the pipe can oval slightly with a liner and leak, without one it just pulls off

its also linked to why you cant use plastic with secondary returns
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Well I've never heard that :cry_smile:worked on massive new builds all with Hep secondary returns.I won't sleep now
 
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I dont use 'inserts' however this is my tactic i use when tackling all makes of plastic pipe:

- unravel the meter coil
- find the end and snip it with my rothenberger cutters
- snip Snip SNip SNIp SNIP!!!!
- get wrapped in the plastic
- walk around the house wrapped in plastic pipe and chase the customer
- grab my blow lamp
- BURN THAT PLASTIC DOWN TO THE GROUND
- employ a priest
- perform the exorcism
- defeat the plastic demon
- now i just use copper since i know soldered joints are more reliable

BOOOOOOOOMMM!!!!!
 
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Just takes twice or more as long, but yes I too prefer copper but sometimes .......... Oh plastics great, well hep2o is hate speed fitspeed fit
 
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Koogatubac said:
I dont use 'inserts' however this is my tactic i use when tackling all makes of plastic pipe:

- unravel the meter coil
- find the end and snip it with my rothenberger cutters
- snip Snip SNip SNIp SNIP!!!!
- get wrapped in the plastic
- walk around the house wrapped in plastic pipe and chase the customer
- grab my blow lamp
- BURN THAT PLASTIC DOWN TO THE GROUND
- employ a priest
- perform the exorcism
- defeat the plastic demon
- now i just use copper since i know soldered joints are more reliable

BOOOOOOOOMMM!!!!!
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Does this get you any strange looks? ;)
 
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