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I am not smiling. I have a feeling I should never have gotten involved. Only time will tell:mad2::mad2::mad2:
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Dear OZ plumber ,
trust me , if you had worked here for at least a weak you would have realised what sort of people LL and Est agents are !!! Not waistimg my time of typing it , I am sure you have read lots about them
As said landlords that big don't appear from no where.
nor do they change engineers unless the engineer throws in the towel from the crap.
VI will quote then be told what he's going to get paid regardless, if he refuses he will lose the lot.
cousin has over 80 properties, he won't even offer me the work as he knows i won't play ball with him.
Nor put up with the crap his current guys takes.
15 quid a cert + boiler service.
he also farms the installs to anyone thats cheaper than his current guy.
carrot on the end of the stick, have to put up with bully tactics to get a sniff of it.
I hope your landlords are more agreeable in oz!
hope your government is also harder on em
Ive picked up work where the previous companies work was crap, where they became to expensive, where they were dishonest and also where they died! It hasn't got to be about the previous contractor throwing in the towel.
Being a self employed gas engineer is also a business and paying a gas engineer / business the equivalent of £ 15 per hour is taking the p@@s. It's a two way street in my opinion, the landlord gives plenty of work for which if he pays a fair rate and gets in return an engineer who jumps through hoops and is reliable allowing BOTH to make money. The old adage, of you pay peanuts you get monkeys spring to mind.As much as I like to agree with a fellow tradesman, I can see the issue from the Landlords point of view as well.
If I had a large portfolio of properties, I would know that I have a good thing to offer someone who is capable of doing the work. I would also want to be certain that I was getting this large amount of potential work done at the best price possible. Owning property is a business not a hobby and you do it to make money. I don’t suppose you shop at more expensive wholesalers unless you have a good history and relationship with them.
I would want to know that the stranger I am asking to do my work is not going to take the pish out of me, and if that meant that I wanted to buy the materials and only be charged for labour then so be it. I’m sure that after a few jobs you could have built up a good working relationship with potentially a large amount of work, and if it didn’t work out, you would not have lost anything either – other than maybe a few days where you may have earnt a bit more elsewhere.
Had one today paid £10,030 invoice was £10,035. So shall invoice for the £5 tomorrow.
Another Asked for a price to do a bbu to flombay, told them on spot she hummed and made noises , so how much to fit then. Sorry supply and fit or do one. Started parping on, got in van and shouted bye!
Landlord : It`s just a game. Object of the game is to collect as much as possible and spend as little as possible, even if that means treading on a few toes along the way. By working for a landlord you become part of his game.
Is this not the game we all play?
We try and charge customers as much as we can - spend as little as we can on materials.
The world wouldn't rotate financially if this 'game' was not played.
Oh - by the way - this game is not a new thing -!!!
If that be the case, why is Ray giving away things for free?
Well after waiting 11 weeks for £250 which was only paid today after a threat of a small claims court, I can personally guarantee I won't touch another letting/estate agent with a large pointy :nono: stick again
Virtually every bad debt we have ever suffered has been from a plumber.
By that logic, we would stop dealing with plumbers!
If your bad debtor had been (for example) an accountant, would you stop dealing with all accountants?
Option a) Because I am a generous soul, who believes in charity and goodwill to all men OR
Option b) Because it is in my commercial interests to persuade product manufacturers that it is in their commercial interests to give me product, which I then distribute for free in order to generate reviews for the manufacturer, and drive traffic to my website. Incidentally, this is also in the commercial interests of those who get the freebie (obviously) AND those who read the reviews, thereby gaining free information from a source which they trust. A rare case of win-win-win.
Its one of the above. Damned if I can work out which.
Well after waiting 11 weeks for £250 which was only paid today after a threat of a small claims court, I can personally guarantee I won't touch another letting/estate agent with a large pointy :nono: stick again
If that be the case, why is Ray giving away things for free?
Well I can work out which one.
Grrrrrr.
I find it amazing in my neck of the woods that i can order a white hopper, down pipe and fittings one day and get it delivered less than 24 hrs later from a company, Williams, at the other end of the country when all the merchants around here are quoting me 3 to 4 working days delivery.
VI, have you ordered anything from Williams?
Hats off to Williams again. Cheers Ray.
No have not heard from him yet, so I'm hoping he has decided to let go if my 'balls' -.
i did advice him to get quotes from other plumbers as it's highly unlikely I will be doing the jobs. But, at the back of my mind,
I can just envisage him sending me an email on Monday or Tuesday saying: 'All materials you requested have been delivered to address, so can you please arrange a date for replacing boiler with tenant?' Now, that will really pizz me off. But as said, my mind is made up. I'm not going to do any job for him regardless.
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