Fast track gas course

[Dougie2019]

How much you paying?

I'll take a wild stab in the dark.

You'll pass the course but won't be able to complete a portfolio to gain an NOW.

Its comeing in at £7500 They said you do your portfolio when your doing your 7 weeks work placement

 

[Pickwickpick]

Its comeing in at £7500 They said you do your portfolio when your doing your 7 weeks work placement

Are they guaranteeing to provide you with that work placement, or do they expect you to sort it out yourself?

 

[Dougie2019]

Are they guaranteeing to provide you with that work placement, or do they expect you to sort it out yourself?

they guarantee you the work placement after your 26 weeks in the training centre

 

[Pickwickpick]

they guarantee you the work placement after your 26 weeks in the training centre

I'd make sure that's written in stone and that there's reviews off genuine trainees who can corroborate it. There's a lot of horror stories of people being left in the lurch with these training centres.

With regards to being employable afterwards, there aren't many employers that will take you on without a few years experience.

 

[Dougie2019]

I'd make sure that's written in stone and that there's reviews off genuine trainees who can corroborate it. There's a lot of horror stories of people being left in the lurch with these training centres.

With regards to being employable afterwards, there aren't many employers that will take you on without a few years experience.

So these training centres are only good if you were to go out on your own self employed

 

[Scott_D]

So these training centres are only good if you were to go out on your own self employed

Or upskilling from plumbing.

 

[BYP]

What’s the name of the training center? Some of these courses are not worth it. Also follow what Pickwick has said. If they can’t provide the details I’d give them a wide birth.

 

[Dougie2019]

What’s the name of the training center? Some of these courses are not worth it. Also follow what Pickwick has said. If they can’t provide the details I’d give them a wide birth.

Skills Training Group

 

[BYP]

Skills Training Group

They seem to checkout online as much as one can tell, ask for references from previous trainees and make sure they’re genuine, etc working for a company.

 

[Dougie2019]

They seem to checkout online as much as one can tell, ask for references from previous trainees and make sure they’re genuine, etc working for a company.

Thanks i will try and get sone references from previous students even if it all does check out i still find it very difficult to get a job if i pass the course

 

[Pickwickpick]

So these training centres are only good if you were to go out on your own self employed

Unless you have personal contacts in the industry then pretty much yes, there are so many of these training firms churning people out that the qualification is not what is in demand, its experience. Someone inexperienced could cost an employer way more than they bring in and they're not going to take that risk when they can employ someone with a track record.

As @scott_d says, the exception to that is people upskilling from plumbing. This is what I'm in the process of doing and I'd say the group I've been in is split roughly 50:50 between those that are already either gas/water and those from other backgrounds (they have do do an extra 4 weeks). The guys that are not from gas/water background are pretty demoralised at this stage, a couple of them seem to be planning on just doing landlord certs (which I think is wrong) but seeing as you now have to be on the register for at least 6 months before you can do your cookers & fires, I think they're going to struggle.

 

[Scott_D]

Unless you have personal contacts in the industry then pretty much yes, there are so many of these training firms churning people out that the qualification is not what is in demand, its experience. Someone inexperienced could cost an employer way more than they bring in and they're not going to take that risk when they can employ someone with a track record.

As @scott_d says, the exception to that is people upskilling from plumbing. This is what I'm in the process of doing and I'd say the group I've been in is split roughly 50:50 between those that are already either gas/water and those from other backgrounds (they have do do an extra 4 weeks). The guys that are not from gas/water background are pretty demoralised at this stage, a couple of them seem to be planning on just doing landlord certs (which I think is wrong) but seeing as you now have to be on the register for at least 6 months before you can do your cookers & fires, I think they're going to struggle.

Is that a recent change?

 

[Dougie2019]

Unless you have personal contacts in the industry then pretty much yes, there are so many of these training firms churning people out that the qualification is not what is in demand, its experience. Someone inexperienced could cost an employer way more than they bring in and they're not going to take that risk when they can employ someone with a track record.

As @scott_d says, the exception to that is people upskilling from plumbing. This is what I'm in the process of doing and I'd say the group I've been in is split roughly 50:50 between those that are already either gas/water and those from other backgrounds (they have do do an extra 4 weeks). The guys that are not from gas/water background are pretty demoralised at this stage, a couple of them seem to be planning on just doing landlord certs (which I think is wrong) but seeing as you now have to be on the register for at least 6 months before you can do your cookers & fires, I think they're going to struggle.

Thanks for the advice i thinking now the course would be a waste of money if i couldnt get i job after the training

 

[Pickwickpick]

Is that a recent change?

Yep applies to anyone who started training after October 2018. There's also now a minimum 10 week wait between finishing MLP (managed learning programme) and doing CCN1.

 

[Pickwickpick]

Thanks for the advice i thinking now the course would be a waste of money if i couldnt get i job after the training

No probs, maybe look into tiling as @townfanjon advised. The courses should be shorter (the tilingforum is a great resource), you'd still probably have to go self employed (although ask one the tiling forum I could be wrong) but its a much more viable option with limited experience than gas work and tilers seem to get paid decent money.