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Thats it have turned to the dark side i have sold my soul !!!

I am transferring to worcester as high end boiler of choice.

If you can't beat them then join them!!
 
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I throw it in the mix but logically it makes no difference to do so.

Imho

1. I dont make a penny more fitting an intergas
2. The backup cannot be as good as the big 3
3. The warrantys add nothing over what others are offering
4. Not many have heard of them so dont care about the selling points
5. People stick to what theyve heard of and like the security of a household name
6. Meant to be reliable but ask an owner in 6 years time (if they are still trading in UK)
 
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i tried switching to Worcester but it lasted a month. and i went back to offering Ideals as my no.1 for my main choice of boiler.
The main thing that annoys me with Worcester is all the hoops you have to jump through to get the extra warranty which adds a fair amount to the price of the overall install.
Worcester attitude being what can you do for us when it should be what they can do for me.
Also the rep was a total bell end.

10 year warranty on the ideal vogue is an easy sell and i can fit my own controls and filter.
plus the rewards for me on installerconnect are pretty good.
im not in cloud cuckoo land like some Worcester installers to think ideals are cut above all other boilers but it works for me and with them being manufactured in Yorkshire thats make it a good selling point.

i dont dislike worcester above any other boiler but i do think they are overpriced.


if someone is insistent on a worcester i way overprice against the vogue so i dont fit many (4 in 6 years).
 
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I like the Integas, but find them impossible to work! And to have to add a pressure vessels just plain odd.
 
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Let's be honest, the repairs are so expensive on condensers. I reckon they'll end up being replaced when out of warranty, or repaired fixed price by the manufacturer.
I've replaced two ten year old Vaillants in the last few months. As soon as more than one part fails, or your unsure of a diagnosis, there just to expensive to repair.
 
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hammers4spanner said:
If its been done properly had a few now with faults round here been called in told them the boiler still under warranty . Engineer came out walked away they will never honour 10 years .
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Thats plain wrong hammers never had an issue it might be worth speaking to the local rep.
Because we get it spoon fed by the reps and on the courses that ideal will always look after us and to be fair they have been very good with me, Engineers and reps.
 
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Don't do it. I'm fitting a Worcester now. I first fixed it a few months ago and took the template out of the box and piped it up as that. Put the boiler on today and the condense pipe is in the wrong place and fouling the jig I thought I'm a muppet but oh no it's the template and the jig are different!

Speaking about the jig why does it come in 2 pieces? Why not just 1.

I do like the drain point connected to the condense and the controls only took 1 minute to fit.
 
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Millsy 82 said:
Don't do it. I'm fitting a Worcester now. I first fixed it a few months ago and took the template out of the box and piped it up as that. Put the boiler on today and the condense pipe is in the wrong place and fouling the jig I thought I'm a muppet but oh no it's the template and the jig are different!

Speaking about the jig why does it come in 2 pieces? Why not just 1.

I do like the drain point connected to the condense and the controls only took 1 minute to fit.
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What boiler cdi? As the junior and cdi compact are one piece
 
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That's what I thought as well. When the condense was in the wrong place as well I could of thrown the boiler in the skip!

I honestly don't know why installers love them.
 
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My biggest grind is with the new Worcester flue fixing on the compacts & smaller Combis, absolute pig! Crappy little plastic thing which when pushed down to allow the flue through the wall is a pig to realign back up... I hope they change it soon or I'm looking elsewhere!
 
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Isn't the Cdi jig 3 parts, as you have the top but loose as well?

No point piping the Cdi off the template, may as well fit the jig & pipe up, as that's what it's designed for!
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2 i think haven't fitted a classic but fitted a few cdi's
 
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gassafe said:
My biggest grind is with the new Worcester flue fixing on the compacts & smaller Combis, absolute pig! Crappy little plastic thing which when pushed down to allow the flue through the wall is a pig to realign back up... I hope they change it soon or I'm looking elsewhere!
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i think thats the best part and tbh not that hard just mark front and lower and match your marks up job done
 
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gassafe said:
Isn't the Cdi jig 3 parts, as you have the top but loose as well?

No point piping the Cdi off the template, may as well fit the jig & pipe up, as that's what it's designed for!
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It looked like you could pull the top bit apart of the jig but it came altogether.

I used the template as I first fixed so all the pipes came out of the wall and into the jig. Didn't work out like that lol.
 
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Last time I did one it was a two part jig, just plain stupid that. And the template was made of really thin paper. What if your drill slips of just a fraction?
 
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