Yet another cheap failure

[Deleted member 96286]

Buy cheap and you buy twice, and you may in fact flood your kitchen in the process.

The flexi in the picture burst just under the tap for no apparent reason other than in my opinion it was cheap tat. The tap itself was an Ebay purchase and felt like tin, when compared to the Bristan one it is being replaced with.
There's a reason why you can buy a cheap Chinese tap on Ebay for a tenner and the same model made to a high standard costs 60 quid.
This by the way is the fourth burst flexi I've been to this year.

 

[Harvest Fields]

To be honest mate. It looks like that has been twisted and under stress.

 

[Deleted member 96286]

To be honest mate. It looks like that has been twisted and under stress.

It's been twisted by me trying to remove it after it burst, that's why it looks like that. It was installed straight into the hot supply line with no kinks or sharp bends.

 

[Harvest Fields]

No worries. Picture is quite misleading then.

 

[Deleted member 96286]

No worries. Picture is quite misleading then.

The burst isn't misleading, that's the original size and shape of it. The post is about the burst and the poor quality of these taps and parts connected to them.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Ok mate. Was just saying.

 

[Scott_D]

Are you getting blamed?
All bathroom stuff is tat

 

[Deleted member 96286]

Are you getting blamed?
All bathroom stuff is tat

No mate, I was asked to fix this. Number four this year. I didn't install any of them.

 

[Welder]

No mate, I was asked to fix this. Number four this year. I didn't install any of them.

The point of failure on all flexies is the rubber hose. It matters not one iota if you pay £2 or £20 or whether its WRAS approved or not either.
The 'difference' in my experience is the quality of stainless in the covering. However, that has zero bearing on its life.
Flexis fail when the inner hose bubbles, like a tyre sometimes. Its obviously 'contained' by the braiding but it stresses the brading. Eventually the brading begins to fail at a few points which means more bubbling and a viscious circle to catastrophic failure.
To prevent catastrophic failure, run you hand down a flexi. If you can feel 'cats whiskers' then its 'on its way to failure' & needs changing.
HTH

 

[Best]

Strange isn’t it that we have products that are a time bomb of when they risk flooding properties?
On a lot of tap installs I don’t think flexis make the job much easier and in fact often cause difficulties. (Often the flexis are too long for example in kitchen mixers).
I have to install someday a kitchen mixer in an upper apartment and the old tap has copper tails. It is original to the apartment - over 30 year old.
I guess any new tap will not last so long, but thinking I should buy copper tails instead of using flexis which most likely will come with new mixer tap.

 

[centralheatking]

Plastic braided flexis have been de listed from all hospital work recently due to failure AND bacteria problems the plastic liner becomes rough and porous harbouring bugs. There are good copper flexies available I have been using stainless steel flexies
which are spot on...and are the way fwds. centralheatking

 

[Welder]

Strange isn’t it that we have products that are a time bomb of when they risk flooding properties?
On a lot of tap installs I don’t think flexis make the job much easier and in fact often cause difficulties. (Often the flexis are too long for example in kitchen mixers).
I have to install someday a kitchen mixer in an upper apartment and the old tap has copper tails. It is original to the apartment - over 30 year old.
I guess any new tap will not last so long, but thinking I should buy copper tails instead of using flexis which most likely will come with new mixer tap.

TBH solid tails are best all round. Better flow & long term safety for sure. Only issue is finding a tap with 12mm tappings as I've yet to find other sizes of hard tails.

 

[centralheatking]

TBH solid tails are best all round. Better flow & long term safety for sure. Only issue is finding a tap with 12mm tappings as I've yet to find other sizes of hard tails.

Keep with us over this, my contact (In Lancashire) is intending to produce the whole range of connections in stainless steel very shortly maybe by direct sale with next day delivery. Its part of the new Uk Plumbing & Heating Innovation Centre ...UkPhic . Which Dan is considering a tie up ...centralheatking

 

[Welder]

Keep with us over this, my contact (In Lancashire) is intending to produce the whole range of connections in stainless steel very shortly maybe by direct sale with next day delivery. Its part of the new Uk Plumbing & Heating Innovation Centre ...UkPhic . Which Dan is considering a tie up ...centralheatking

Sorry Rob, not sure what you mean pls expand.

 

[centralheatking]

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