Whats happened to the look of the forum

[Ray Stafford]

hate to say it but all advertising gets ignored in reality, until you need something, then you forget where you saw what you needed

Ha.

Ha ha.

Ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha ha ha.

So that explains why your favourite intergas is market leader, and Worcester Bosch is just a minor player?

...oh...hang on...wait...

 

[lame plumber]

who just strangled Ray's pet cat, oh me anyhow ford advertise like mad and that doesnt make them as good as rolls royce who dont bother

 

[Ray Stafford]

who just strangled Ray's pet cat, oh me anyhow ford advertise like mad and that doesnt make them as good as rolls royce who dont bother

And who sells more cars prithee?

 

[lame plumber]

mass sales dont make them better, long been known that the need to make profits on cheaper products means reliability isnt always as good, not saying ig are rolls royce boilers, but they seem to be a good reliable product, based on my limited experience of the mass boiler market. Just coz they wont let you sell them, you really must chat to the new boss and get them on your shelves.

 

[Ray Stafford]

mass sales dont make them better, long been known that the need to make profits on cheaper products means reliability isnt always as good, not saying ig are rolls royce boilers, but they seem to be a good reliable product, based on my limited experience of the mass boiler market. Just coz they wont let you sell them, you really must chat to the new boss and get them on your shelves.

You said that "all advertising gets ignored".

Which is demonstrably untrue. As evidenced by the runaway sales of well advertised brands in both the car and boiler markets.

 

[lame plumber]

ray, in all seriousness the only real advertising is word of mouth, the rest is something the advertising moguls have managed to sell to people needing to get their products sold. would you honestly buy a car based on a tv ad or something clarkson said ? boilers are normally sold to customers based on their plumbers recommendation, at least mine are, Ive yet to see an intergas ad. ITV and other commercial channels havent cotonned onto the fact its wasted now sky allows people to skip ads, me I just make a coffee or go for a pee. Prehaps Im the exception to the rule, but big advertising pushes always puts me off products, they seem desparate and annoying.

 

[tamz]

You read my mind there Jon. Back in the olden days tv ads were generally un obtrusive and a welcome break. Now there are sometimes more ads than program and they are a pita so anyone who has a pvr records the program and either blocks or skips the ads. The internet is getting the same way. I need a better adblocker.

 

[Ray Stafford]

ray, in all seriousness the only real advertising is word of mouth, the rest is something the advertising moguls have managed to sell to people needing to get their products sold. would you honestly buy a car based on a tv ad or something clarkson said ? boilers are normally sold to customers based on their plumbers recommendation, at least mine are, Ive yet to see an intergas ad. ITV and other commercial channels havent cotonned onto the fact its wasted now sky allows people to skip ads, me I just make a coffee or go for a pee. Prehaps Im the exception to the rule, but big advertising pushes always puts me off products, they seem desparate and annoying.

Hi Jon

There are a lot of people who report the same attitude as you towards advertising. Its so common that advertisers have a word for them. They call people like you "consumers".

And whilst I can't speak for you, I can tell you that in aggregate people who self report as being "immune from" or "anti" advertising have exactly the same purchasing patterns as everyone else.

 

[Dan]

no dropdown box at all dan

Sorry try now!

 

[Dan]

Google ads have gone for those with 10+ posts.

Sponsors sidebar can be collapsed if you're in any group UKPF Arms or above.

So you can browse the website with no ads if you wish now.

ray, in all seriousness the only real advertising is word of mouth, the rest is something the advertising moguls have managed to sell to people needing to get their products sold. would you honestly buy a car based on a tv ad or something clarkson said ? boilers are normally sold to customers based on their plumbers recommendation, at least mine are, Ive yet to see an intergas ad. ITV and other commercial channels havent cotonned onto the fact its wasted now sky allows people to skip ads, me I just make a coffee or go for a pee. Prehaps Im the exception to the rule, but big advertising pushes always puts me off products, they seem desparate and annoying.

Online advertising is the worlds largest advertising avenue for any company. We need the sponsors logo's on the forum so you know who to try first when buying a product. But as with any advertising campaign, a logo alone doesn't cut the mustard, you need an offer from time to time, or some new products to get discussed etc.

If you think advertising is dead, and only word of mouth works, I'm afraid to say (and be a bit blunt/harsh in doing so) you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Dan]

I see there is an issue with collapsing the sidebar, it doesn't save the setting and visiting a new thread brings it back. Looking into this now.

 

[Dan]

Sidebar issue fixed.

 

[PlumbBobBob]

thanks for the dropdown all my screen is filled now

 

[Dan]

I hate fluid screens where everything moves around as you change the browser window size. I like OCD-style fixed width designs me.

 

[Ray Stafford]

Ah, thats much better. Thanks Dan

 

[lame plumber]

: )

 

[fogarty]

Still summat not quite right but can't put my finger on it. It is better though. Thanks

 

[Ray Stafford]

Now, if we could just have an "edit" button in the arms, everything would be wonder-bubble.

 

[Dan]

Now, if we could just have an "edit" button in the arms, everything would be wonder-bubble.

There's an edit button in all forums. It's a global setting. There is a time limit on editing a post though. I think it's a hour or so. Notice your mistakes quicker.

The reason we do it is to prevent members posting something, other people quoting it, the thread getting a few pages deep, then if a couple of people change their original text, the quoted text isn't right later in the thread, and it can render some long threads to read a bit useless and out of context.

We've also had issues where friday night drinks have caused a guy to have a few responses from regulars, then he's edited his arsey posts saturday, and it's left regulars looking like plonkers arguing to themselves.

Also had an issue year ago where a regular edited all his posts and he changed every single one to some random word. Rendering about 30% of the forum useless.

Just always wise to have edit times set low.

 

[Killy Bing]

There's an edit button in all forums. It's a global setting. There is a time limit on editing a post though. I think it's a hour or so. Notice your mistakes quicker.

The reason we do it is to prevent members posting something, other people quoting it, the thread getting a few pages deep, then if a couple of people change their original text, the quoted text isn't right later in the thread, and it can render some long threads to read a bit useless and out of context.

We've also had issues where friday night drinks have caused a guy to have a few responses from regulars, then he's edited his arsey posts saturday, and it's left regulars looking like plonkers arguing to themselves.

Also had an issue year ago where a regular edited all his posts and he changed every single one to some random word. Rendering about 30% of the forum useless.

Just always wise to have edit times set low.

In the arms we have no edit at all dan?
can make a post, can't edit it 10 seconds later.

make up a test profile and see.

 

[Dan]

In the arms we have no edit at all dan?
can make a post, can't edit it 10 seconds later.

make up a test profile and see.

Fixed: http://www.ukplumbersforums.co.uk/plumbers-arms/67247-testing-edit-button.html

Sorry about that! Genuinely didn't know I could turn that off per-usergroup per-forum per se. Seem to have found an obscure way of turning it off at some point in the last 7 years. :-/

Wow.

 

[Mike Jackson]

Can you turn the edit feature off for individuals? That could be a laugh.

 

[Toxic Ted]

Pity we cant do that by region..........no that would be a laugh.

 

[Dan]

That's just mean.

 

[turnpin]

Much improved thanks Dan ...regards Turnpin:biggrin5:

 

[zzzjim]

Alternate edit access by day of week , Thoughtful - days , -vs- Care free !

 

[Ray Stafford]

This is getting very near to being perfect!

Just one thing seems to be missing.

We used to be able to see who was browsing each thread. It was at the bottom of the screen. Could we have that back please?

 

[tamz]

Can you turn the edit feature off for individuals? That could be a laugh.

Probably as i can't reply to any plumbing courses threads. Still no edit button in the arms for me.

 

[Tony Robins]

I quite enjoy the new layout. Well done Dan, you've done a good job.

It was always worth testing new things out with the site.

 

[lame plumber]

is it me or are there loads of highlighted words now that give pop ups!!!!!!!!!!, only does it on the forum not on any other browser, its becoming really annoying

 

[Dannypipe]

Is it me, or is the forum just generally less busy these days? Doesn't seem as many new posts, or quick replies as there was a couple of years back?

 

[lame plumber]

all on facebook now?

 

[SafeGasInstall]

Is it just me, or has the forum changed in appearance?

It still looks the same on my iPad, but on my PC it is only using the middle part of the screen, and the sponsors logos are on the left and more intrusive.

Is there a setting I can change to put it back to how it was, or is this a vBulletin "upgrade"?

part of it is your fault ! keep advertising on the top page pmsl

 

[Ermintrude]

Alright Stan? Busy day? U give that listed building job a wide birth ?

 

[Dotty]

Welcome back Stan, we've missed you! :17: