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System 'filters' eg Spirotech, Magnaclean, TF1, I was told today, 'change (or reverse?) the polarity of the water'.

My comment was that I have never seen any manufacturer make this claim... and considering they make all sorts of claims, I'm surprised they haven't used this in their marketing if true.

Is this true, and is this a good thing? Sounds too much like hocus pocus to me, but perhaps I'm being over-cynical.
 
Ok, Ric, I am responsible for 3
Of these filters on sale in uk and Europe ...but not the adey
Unit, we have never considered this issue and ultimately does it make any difference ?
However as usual I am pragmatic and as always interested ....please expand on the relative benefits of ‘reversed polarity ‘ to be quite honest if it was 01/04/any year I would be very suspicious
Kind regards Rob Foster
aka centralheatking
 
Don't take responsibility for those filters: I'd blame you for every design flaw ;)

The thing about polarity was something an old plumber told me today, but he got annoyed when I was dismissive of the idea and then refused to continue further. Whether it was relevant to what he was telling me or just an aside, I don't know. He said that just as a magnetic filter (the stupid ones that allegedly prevent limescale in a combi boiler) works on the polarity of the water by magnets placed externally, the system filters do the same by an internal magnet.

Personally, I'd like to see a proper trial that shows whether magnetic in-line filters work at all, but my feeling is that just if sticking a magnet in a pot reverses polarity and this is somehow beneficial, then I'll plonk one in my cylinder feed cistern right away.

Can you make any sense of that?
 
Don't take responsibility for those filters: I'd blame you for every design flaw ;)

The thing about polarity was something an old plumber told me today, but he got annoyed when I was dismissive of the idea and then refused to continue further. Whether it was relevant to what he was telling me or just an aside, I don't know. He said that just as a magnetic filter (the stupid ones that allegedly prevent limescale in a combi boiler) works on the polarity of the water by magnets placed externally, the system filters do the same by an internal magnet.

Personally, I'd like to see a proper trial that shows whether magnetic in-line filters work at all, but my feeling is that just if sticking a magnet in a pot reverses polarity and this is somehow beneficial, then I'll plonk one in my cylinder feed cistern right away.

Can you make any sense of that?
You have mixed up the inline magnetic water conditioners that mitigate temporary hardness in water. They have little and in fact zero to do with central heating filters in my opinion in fact the conditioning of the water is only temporary for in line mag units in a water supply, so tanked storage systems are unsuitable
Centralheatking
 
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I haven't mixed them up, Rob, the other plumber has, and my point was that if plonking them in a pot, which I somehow doubt...

but I thought the irony in my previous comment was self-evident.
 
Oh. So the vast canon of English Literature is lost on you then. A pity. You'll never laugh at a Jane Austen joke then. Oh well.

To re-phrase it then:

Personally, I'd like to see a proper trial that shows whether magnetic in-line filters work at all because I doubt they do very much, if anything. However, as I see it, a magnetic in-liner is designed for a specific purpose and a system filter designed for another purpose so even if the in-liner reverses the polarity of the water, my feeling is that the system filter probably won't (because it is significantly different in design). Simply putting a magnet close to some water and expecting the same outcome as from a purposely designed fitting makes little sense to me.
 
Oh. So the vast canon of English Literature is lost on you then. A pity. You'll never laugh at a Jane Austen joke then. Oh well.

To re-phrase it then:

Personally, I'd like to see a proper trial that shows whether magnetic in-line filters work at all because I doubt they do very much, if anything. However, as I see it, a magnetic in-liner is designed for a specific purpose and a system filter designed for another purpose so even if the in-liner reverses the polarity of the water, my feeling is that the system filter probably won't (because it is significantly different in design). Simply putting a magnet close to some water and expecting the same outcome as from a purposely designed fitting makes little sense to me.
I prefer Irish literature myself anyway I accord with your critique of in line magnetic water filters , you are not wrong
Rob Foster aka centralheatking
 
Oh. So the vast canon of English Literature is lost on you then. A pity. You'll never laugh at a Jane Austen joke then. Oh well.

To re-phrase it then:

Personally, I'd like to see a proper trial that shows whether magnetic in-line filters work at all because I doubt they do very much, if anything. However, as I see it, a magnetic in-liner is designed for a specific purpose and a system filter designed for another purpose so even if the in-liner reverses the polarity of the water, my feeling is that the system filter probably won't (because it is significantly different in design). Simply putting a magnet close to some water and expecting the same outcome as from a purposely designed fitting makes little sense to me.
I have stood next to,John Betjeman, stayed in Ted Hughes house at Hepponstall
I could carry on Chk
 

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