Space saving AND offset pan connector?

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Hi all,

Quick one I hope!

Have a toilet that was relatively near the wall with a space saving pan connector (like a question mark).

We've now tiled the room which was previously plain wall and so with the cement, backerboard, tile cement and tiles this has brought the wall in a bit too close to the toilet, so we'd like to move it over 5-10cm.

Normally this just be a job for an offset I guess, but I also need to cater for the fact the pan connector is a space saver also.

Can you get an offset space saving pan connector or should I just use a flexible connector for this?

Any thoughts/ideas welcome!

 

[king of pipes]

Pictures please

 

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Here you go!

 

[king of pipes]

the connection at the back aswell please bit close to the wall isn't it ?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

I’m guessing the drain is in the floor ?

 

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the connection at the back aswell please bit close to the wall isn't it ?

Yep that's exactly what I'm wanting to adjust! This is where the tiles have encroached a bit

 

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I’m guessing the drain is in the floor ?

Yes, spot on

 

[king of pipes]

This really should of been addressed before the floor was tiled I can't see a option with the existing position of the floor drain sorry . Kop

 

[Ben-gee]

From where you are now; you could try an offset in the floor- moving to the right- and then your space saver into that ( put a 60mm piece of soil pipe into the offset pan connector first before the space saver)

None of this is ideal, why wasn’t it addressed under the floor during the refurb?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Time to rip the floor up and move it over min 8” should be 16” to the centre of the drain off the left hand wall

edt what’s with all the silicon in the drain ?

 

[king of pipes]

From where you are now; you could try an offset in the floor- moving to the right- and then your space saver into that ( put a 60mm piece of soil pipe into the offset pan connector first before the space saver)

None of this is ideal, why wasn’t it addressed under the floor during the refurb?

Surley that will foul on the side of the pan?? It needs moving in the floor in my view

 

[Ben-gee]

Surley that will foul on the side of the pan?? It needs moving in the floor in my view

So it will, not even worth trying after all!

Afraid it’s time to lift the floor , move it back as well as to the right - then you can use a bent pan connector as those space savers are a last resort and prone to blocking.

 

[king of pipes]

Your other option is to change to a small WC unit with a new back to the wall pan I did this one recently it can be moved over a bit then as you can see it will save lifting the floor and damaging the tiling?? Kop

 

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Your other option is to change to a small WC unit with a new back to the wall pan I did this one recently it can be moved over a bit then as you can see it will save lifting the floor and damaging the tiling?? Kop

Your other option is to change to a small WC unit with a new back to the wall pan I did this one recently it can be moved over a bit then as you can see it will save lifting the floor and damaging the tiling?? Kop

Ah yes, good thinking - there's some weird and wonderful pan connections out there I was looking at, eg

Tissino Angelo Close Coupled WC + Soft Close Seat (Right Hand Waste Exit) - https://www.victorianplumbing.co.uk/tissino-angelo-close-coupled-wc-soft-close-seat-right-hand-waste-exit?campaign=googlebase&gclid=CjwKCAiA_9r_BRBZEiwAHZ_v14FdqvU1Uh5kUhEe_M30fFpQ4BRgV07hyrpb2WxMW52y6465_OTMIhoCkIQQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Completely irrelevant, but this did make me chuckle too:

Clearly wanted a window view....!


Think it might be simplest to swap the toilet - no big deal actually as we're needing to do another couple of bathrooms, so no waste at all.

It really doesn't need that much space, so wondering if even a toilet with a more open design at the rear might work.

Think your idea is the front runner at the moment though, nice thought...!

 

[Ben-gee]

Dare I suggest a bit more thought at the planning stage for the next two bathrooms!

 

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Dare I suggest a bit more thought at the planning stage for the next two bathrooms!

Heh, yes it's less about more planning, rather less change of planning I suspect... Other half plan to just tile the floor changed after seeing them.....! Ah well, think a couple of sensible approaches available - not end of the world if I need to lift a couple of tiles in worst case!

 

[Ben-gee]

I know how that one goes!

If you have some more of those tiles and enough space to bring the toilet forward a bit too, you can build and tile a studwork box and reuse that toilet ( or get a short projection one if necessary).
I usually take the box just above the height of the cistern and you get a useful shelf.

 

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Yeah good thinking - I'm wondering if it might just something as simple as getting a BTW toilet? Which is pretty much the same as you describe just without the extra tiling, eg

Toreno BTW Toilet Unit w/ Cistern & Soft Close Seat | WC Unit

Complement the look of modern bathrooms with the Toreno High Gloss White BTW WC with Cistern & Soft Close Seat. Available from Victorian Plumbing.co.uk.

www.victorianplumbing.co.uk

 

[Ben-gee]

Yes same idea, just that tiling with same tiles will all fit in nicely and look intentional- but functionally same.

 

[pycoed]

What about angling the wc away from the wall on the right (as you sit on the pan)? A simple angle connector would then suffice, if the room would take it.