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How about I put the cistern behind the shower to the right of the toilet? Though the flush pipe would have to bend at 90 degrees to reach the toilet. Would this work?

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All you are doing is lower the toilet.
it will look and feel very odd when its 30mm lower than standard height.
 

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Personally I wouldn't do that the cistern at sometime in its life will need attention so the tiles may need to be removed the seals can and do fail I've seen a few horrors , I think your getting to hung up on tile heights a bath is determined by the bath panel height even if you tile it which is not a great idea in my opinion you will not get full tiles everywhere. keep it simple as possible and fix the frame well any flexing of timbers cause you problems later on always keep a box of tiles if needed in the future. Kop
 

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Ok so if I have the bath at 59cm the toilet can be 5mm close to the correct height. The standard bath height is 51cm. Do you think 59cm is low enough if I am 5ft 6 tall. I guess I could get into the bath side ways rather than head on to make it easier to get into. I could also have a step to hand.

At the end of the day the shower will be used everyday the bath maybe once every 2 weeks.

The bath will not have taps but will be filled via the overflow. How long before things leak and I then have to rip up the tiles on the bath. I will keep some spare. The same goes for the shower too as it is fully integrated.
 

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Ok so if I have the bath at 59cm the toilet can be 5mm close to the correct height. The standard bath height is 51cm. Do you think 59cm is low enough if I am 5ft 6 tall. I guess I could get into the bath side ways rather than head on to make it easier to get into. I could also have a step to hand.

At the end of the day the shower will be used everyday the bath maybe once every 2 weeks.

The bath will not have taps but will be filled via the overflow. How long before things leak and I then have to rip up the tiles on the bath. I will keep some spare. The same goes for the shower too as it is fully integrated.
If done correctly i would expect 10 years service out of a good install before things start looking tired or failing i just did this one it was 600mm to top off the bath before the flooring went down flooring which was 20mm so 580mm so your not far off also had a bath filler and overflow combined . Regards kop
 

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If done correctly i would expect 10 years service out of a good install before things start looking tired or failing i just did this one it was 600mm to top off the bath before the flooring went down flooring which was 20mm so 580mm so your not far off also had a bath filler and overflow combined . Regards kop

Ok thanks that is very reassuring. Is it ok if I attach my upstairs bathroom plans to see if there are any other issues you can spot? I have yet to modify the bath height in these drawings so please ignore that. I think I should be able to have the bath panel removable even with it tiled.

On the third image I have two placements for the shower valve not sure which one is better.

The shower niche I want a white one but the issue is I can't find one which is the exact size to match my metro tiles.

I found this one, it is 304mm x 304mm. The 304mm height would allow for 2mm grout top and bottom meaning the tiles do not need to be cut that way. If I could find a similar niche but in white to match the colour of the tiles that would be magic.

Many thanks

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Ok thanks that is very reassuring. Is it ok if I attach my upstairs bathroom plans to see if there are any other issues you can spot? I have yet to modify the bath height in these drawings so please ignore that. I think I should be able to have the bath panel removable even with it tiled.

On the third image I have two placements for the shower valve not sure which one is better.

The shower niche I want a white one but the issue is I can't find one which is the exact size to match my metro tiles.

I found this one, it is 304mm x 304mm. The 304mm height would allow for 2mm grout top and bottom meaning the tiles do not need to be cut that way. If I could find a similar niche but in white to match the colour of the tiles that would be magic.

Many thanks

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It's a good idea to keep the shower mixer way from the shower head I would go as circled below , you only need two upstands on the tray in my opinion you can easily make a niche using 6 mm Wedi board . Regards kop
 

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It's a good idea to keep the shower mixer way from the shower head I would go as circled below , you only need two upstands on the tray in my opinion you can easily make a niche using 6 mm Wedi board . Regards kop
Thanks for those recommendations.

This 6mm wedi board would be used throughout the bathroom I assume. So for the back and four sides of the niche I wouldn't be using metro tiles. Is there something I can get which matches the colour of the metro tiles. Would it be a white tile I use cut up to fit the niche and use tile trim around the edges?
 

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Thanks for those recommendations.

This 6mm wedi board would be used throughout the bathroom I assume. So for the back and four sides of the niche I wouldn't be using metro tiles. Is there something I can get which matches the colour of the metro tiles. Would it be a white tile I use cut up to fit the niche and use tile trim around the edges?
Coloured glass looks good or mosaic tiles there's no need to use Wedi on the whole bathroom you can use plasterboard if you use a good quality tanking kit before tiling, just use Wedi on the niche be careful with trims they are a weak spot for leaks .
 

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