Rotatimg soil pipe fitting

[Timanfiya]

Hi. Could anyone advise if this is a push fit fitting that I can rotate?
If I had to cut out the section I'd have to do from below in the kitchen which might be problematic.

I've applied some wd40 in prep for when I disconnect toilet but not sure if it will move.

Thanks

 

[Deleted member 120897]

Hi. Could anyone advise if this is a push fit fitting that I can rotate?
If I had to cut out the section I'd have to do from below in the kitchen which might be problematic.

I've applied some wd40 in prep for when I disconnect toilet but not sure if it will move.

Thanks

It certainly does look like push fit. Fittings that have been sat a while can be troublesome to move.

 

[steadyon]

WD40 is likely to rot the rubber seals.

 

[Timanfiya]

WD40 is likely to rot the rubber seals.

Yikes.. Will try fairy liquid then

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Bottom side looks like as glued boss so can’t rotate

 

[Timanfiya]

It certainly does look like push fit. Fittings that have been sat a while can be troublesome to move.

I thought the top looked like push fit. Wasn't sure about the bottom that goes into another fitting.
Was thinking of using some wood as a lever. It's been in that position for 30 yrs.
Really need to relocate the toilet though.
Any tips on ensuring the rest of the pipe doesn't rotate?

 

[Timanfiya]

Bottom side looks like as glued boss so can’t rotate

That's the part I was unsure of. It goes into another boss section

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Easy to tell if it’s push fit will have the same collar on each outlet but that’s 100% glued sorry to say

 

[Timanfiya]

Easy to tell if it’s push fit will have the same collar on each outlet but that’s 100% glued sorry to say

Damn.. if I cut at the bottom where the glued bit goes in would I be able to get a push fitting to go over the top of that bottom boss? The bottom boss is under floor level between 2 joists so I can't cut without ripping part of the kitchen out

 

[ShaunCorbs]

No you might be able to remove the pipe in the boss bit but it will take time and a hair dryer and a hacksaw

 

[snowhead]

No a push fit will only fit onto a pipe end.
If it's out of sight then maybe a Flexseal coupler (check exact sizes first)

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[Timanfiya]

No you might be able to remove the pipe in the boss bit but it will take time and a hair dryer and a hacksaw

So cut the top of the top boss the heat the top of bottom boss until it glue melts and come free?

 

[Timanfiya]

No a push fit will only fit onto a pipe end.
If it's out of sight then maybe a Flexseal coupler (check exact sizes first)

Flexseal 100mm-115mm Drainage Coupling DC115 | Drainage Central

Buy Flexseal 100mm-115mm Drainage Coupling DC115 Online. Flex Seals range of Flexible Adaptor Couplings are available for Next Day Nationwide Delivery from Drainage Central

www.drainagecentral.co.uk

Thought as much. It will be concealed so might try coupler if heating to melt glue doesn't work. It's the only toilet in the house so need to be prepared with options.

 

[Timanfiya]

https://www.NoLinkingToThis/p/mcalpine-push-fit-single-socket-drain-connector-black-110mm/4255v

I take it something like this wouldn't squeeze in to the top of the bottom boss if I can't get it out?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

https://www.NoLinkingToThis/p/mcalpine-push-fit-single-socket-drain-connector-black-110mm/4255v

I take it something like this wouldn't squeeze in to the top of the bottom boss if I can't get it out?

That would go in nice you cut it but would leave your toilet outlet too high off the floor around 185mm from finished floor level

Use a hacksaw blade to cut internally through the wall of the pipe (just the pipe and not the boss) then heat up internally eg the pipe where you have cut and an inch in the direction your going then using a flat blades screwdriver see if you can push it in between the pipe and the boss once you get it started it becomes easier the hardiest part is the beginning once you have an inch piece you can use pliers to coil it on its self as you go with the hairdryer

 

[Timanfiya]

That would go in nice you cut it but would leave your toilet outlet too high off the floor around 185mm from finished floor level

Use a hacksaw blade to cut internally through the wall of the pipe (just the pipe and not the boss) then heat up internally eg the pipe where you have cut and an inch in the direction your going then using a flat blades screwdriver see if you can push it in between the pipe and the boss once you get it started it becomes easier the hardiest part is the beginning once you have an inch piece you can use pliers to coil it on its self as you go with the hairdryer

I think I understand you. So cut out the top boss and just above the bottom boss (yellow line in pic). The gradually heat .. pry out/break off the inner glued pipe then peal it off with pliers?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Yep but you will have to cut with a hacksaw blade horizontal downwards just through the pipe on the inside (where the yellow mark is on the boss don’t cut the boss )

 

[Timanfiya]

Ah

Yep but you will have to cut with a hacksaw blade horizontal downwards just through the pipe on the inside (where the yellow mark is on the boss don’t cut the boss )

Ah. I understand now. Just got the parts so will give it a try tomorrow and let you know how I get on. Thanks so much for the advice

 

[Timanfiya]

I haven't had chance to do it yet. But I didn't think about issue with putting the new boss in place.
The pipe vents outside on the roof so don't want to lift the pipe and cause any damage to roof.
I'm assuming the best way to have room to slip on the new boss would be to cut out a section above to allow room to lift and then replace that section using 2 slip couplings.

https://www.NoLinkingToThis/p/flopl...VA2HmCh0Lcw1cEAQYASABEgLRYfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Would this be the best/easiest option?