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Michael Groves

Michael Groves

My gas engineer is replacing 6 gas meter boxes. He has discovered when they were installed in 1980 they used PE pipe from behind boxes. This is fine as it's underground. But, there is a metal compression joint, joining copper from box to PE pipe, which is also under ground and hence rusted.
He has advised this does not comply and needs changing. His solution was to use Philmac PE gas fittings. However, he has now advised Philmac literature advises compliant with ISO10838, which was withdrawn in 2015, and replaced with ISO17885.
Philmac are not answering calls or emails to confirm if they are compliant with new standard.
So his suggestion is either leave new connections accessible so we can use metal, or get specialist to fusion weld.
I don't fancy either of the new options, the Philmac solution is much better, but he won't progress with this until there is confirmation the fittings comply with latest standard.

Any suggestions?

Gas engineer has also posted same question elsewhere.
 
ShaunCorbs

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Any pictures of the set up ?
 
ShaunCorbs

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That looks like the supplier side eg the mains into the meters ?
 
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ShaunCorbs

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I would replace due to the look of them and test then wrap in denso all must be done via a Registered Gas Engineer eg no diy
 
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Michael Groves

Michael Groves

I would replace due to the look of them and test then wrap in denso all must be done via a Registered Gas Engineer eg no diy
I agree with everything you say.
my concern is gas engineer is looking for iso17885, looks like these fitting are iso17875-2.
this means nothing to me, he’s gonna want to be able to reference this in his book. Where will he find confirmation he can use these fittings?
 
ShaunCorbs

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I agree with everything you say.
my concern is gas engineer is looking for iso17885, looks like these fitting are iso17875-2.
this means nothing to me, he’s gonna want to be able to reference this in his book. Where will he find confirmation he can use these fittings?
yes manufacturers instructions state can be used underground (you could email them and ask for this in writing)
 

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