Part p

[tommy1712]

I think it's time for me to get a part p. I am trying to move my business in the direction of heating engineering and certified electrical installations.
whats my options regarding part p courses? Is it still a cheeky 2 day course to be a domestic installer or has that changed?
my gas is the ultimate goal but the sparks will go hand in hand with the gas

like putting in a bath and tiling

 

[ShaunCorbs]

I used to do elecs before gas.
Used to be with Big gash on esd (electrical services division)
And had their part p ticket.
I prefer gas but also been asked a few times lately for leccy work.

i hope your better than some of the installs/ coms swaps ive seen done

 

[newcastle phill]

I wasn't a contractor.
We were heavily 'moderated' lol

 

[markadams]

I think you would have been better just phoning up the part P scheme providers and asking there requirements then joining the one that let's you join with the least knowledge.

We have all given our advice but you have already made up your mind so good luck with it, I hope it works out.

 

[newcastle phill]

And couldnt knock the training. They were great for that.

 

[tommy1712]

So in a nutshell you don't agree with the domestic installer scheme

 

[tommy1712]

I think you would have been better just phoning up the part P scheme providers and asking there requirements then joining the one that let's you join with the least knowledge.

We have all given our advice but you have already made up your mind so good luck with it, I hope it works out.

It will because I am not a div, I havd the back up of one of the best heating engineers in the game and like wise a dam good sparkie

 

[newcastle phill]

i hope your better than some of the installs/ coms swaps ive seen done

Have to say - ive never seen a baddun !!! (c2002 - 2007 electrics)
At least on eleccy side it was all good - but at that time we could walk on water amd treat like gods lmao - we were the most profitable part of the business and carrying the gas side !!

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Have to say - ive never seen a baddun !!! (c2002 - 2007 electrics)
At least on eleccy side it was all good - but at that time we could walk on water amd treat like gods lmao - we were the most profitable part of the business and carrying the gas side !!

well the one i saw they used jbs to extend the circuits (as for lower com) but they left every single lid off, and they tried to fit everything into 4" trunking talk about rats nest

 

[newcastle phill]

Hmmm funny smell with that one lol doesnt ring true.
Im not calling BS... but im not far off it.....[emoji12]

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Hmmm funny smell with that one lol doesnt ring true.
Im not calling BS... but im not far off it.....[emoji12]

yep 1000% true the shower circuit was in 3 lengths went white grey white had a big fat bg sticker on the com

 

[newcastle phill]

Awww well then it must be true..... If you said 999% id have been doubting you, but the 1000% declaration is beyond reproach....[emoji12]

Lets just hope you never come across swaged joints [emoji41] with a BG sticker on heeee horrr

 

[tamz]

The whole problem isn't the players its the game. Blame the cants in whitehall for making up the rules on the advice of people with ulterior motives based on profits.
We are on the wrong end of the game and always will be

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Awww well then it must be true..... If you said 999% id have been doubting you, but the 1000% declaration is beyond reproach....[emoji12]

Lets just hope you never come across swaged joints [emoji41] with a BG sticker on heeee horrr

prob never will as they always use fittings don't think they own benders as they even use 45s in fittings even seen an offset in fittings lol

 

[tamz]

Offsets in 45's do my nut in

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Offsets in 45's do my nut in

+1 tbh I don't know why they make them and the stupid pass over things

 

[tamz]

Make them for the idiots who can't work a bending machine or even a spring if you're stuck

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Make them for the idiots who can't work a bending machine or even a spring if you're stuck

Yea but what gets me by the time you cleaned and solded you could of learnt how to bend one its not hard

 

[tamz]

Obviosly it is to the brain dead Shaun lol

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Obviosly it is to the brain dead Shaun lol

I'm even sure for the thickos they could make a wooden template but year your right or its even they don't care what it looks like snot all over, solder on half the fitting due to being wiped too soon etc

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Make me think of this



Not bg but another big comp they had to change there name after my internal email went round must of spent 20 on fittings

 

[chris watkins]

but they didn't need a hot works or disable the smoke alarm system which might have meant out of hours working to do that retro-fit did they, is it in someone house ? It's not pretty but you often need to know the whole story.

 

[chris watkins]

The whole problem isn't the players its the game. Blame the cants in whitehall for making up the rules on the advice of people with ulterior motives based on profits.
We are on the wrong end of the game and always will be

I believe in this case Tamz it was not profit led (for a change) but as a result of an MP's daughters death through electrocution, very sad but we ended up with this very poor add on to the BR.
As this was a Statute it did not go through the parliamentary scrutiny process.

 

[chris watkins]

Part P - for plumbers, heating engineers or for any one else who comes in contact with electrical systems as per of their normal work activities.

It is I believe in the proses of being chanced again so I would not advice anyone not to jump in until it is clear.
What gets me is that some of the CPS providers took it upon themselves to say that you can't join unless you have a full electrical NVQ, even if you are only completing work under to old limited or defined scope, the revised Part P AD did not say that.
I can understand them trying to stop the ones who had completed a 5dayer wiring whole houses but to claim that I need an NVQ to do what I needed to do as part of my job is equally wrong.

They have to accept that electricity is such a part of other trades work that it just can't be reclaimed for the exclusivity of those strange beast who call themselves Electricians.

 

[Jamiethackway]

i did part p defined scope and full scope, but thinking about it realistically, it was too much additional to the job. You, like Gas safe have to register with a governing body, buy the tester (aprox £600) then as soon as you touch the system you become responsible for the whole system, so by the time you have checked everything is safe you may have added another 2 hours to your day.
just worth thinking about before you waste £1000 on the course.