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Henry mote

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hi guys.

I'm looking to do the initial gas course wit Logic for Training. The course is three weeks and they accept you if you pass a small assessment on an open day /interview day. Essentially they show you around and you have to answer 20 questions to prove you know enough about plumbing to go onto the gas course.

Does any one know what these questions would be?? I imagine them to be pretty simple like what is a compression fitting, but I could be wrong and it would be good to know.

Has anyone had to do one of these interview days before doing the gas course?

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Most of us took the apprenticeship route, 4yrs of training, studying & college work/exams and years of experience under your belt to get a gas licence. To think you can do it in 3 weeks is a poke in the eye to the gas industry. As you may well deduce, I do not like the fast track system and encourage anyone to go through the training and exams you need to be a good, safe engineer. But I wish you all the best with your endeavour and good luck.
 
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Most of us took the apprenticeship route, 4yrs of training, studying & college work/exams and years of experience under your belt to get a gas licence. To think you can do it in 3 weeks is a poke in the eye to the gas industry. As you may well deduce, I do not like the fast track system and encourage anyone to go through the training and exams you need to be a good, safe engineer. But I wish you all the best with your endeavour and good luck.
Hi mate, my dad has been a gas engineer for 35 years and I've been shadowing him for a year. I've worked on a load of boilers and done various tasks on them. I'm not looking to do the course without any experience and then go off to work on my own. I've worked on boilers for a year, I then plan to do this course and then carrying on working with my dad for a year, but be qualified. So it's not really a silly fast track for me, but I understand where you're coming from.

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Agree only time that you should be able to fast track is the above situation or been an old boy and hasn't renewed his gas and then wants to have it again
 

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Hi mate, my dad has been a gas engineer for 35 years and I've been shadowing him for a year. I've worked on a load of boilers and done various tasks on them.
Given the above , don't worry about the questions, you should sail through them
 
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I am doing right now my acs and have passed my Theorie exams not long ago. I didn't have to prove anything to anyone. Somehow, I had other people in my course they just had done their nvq-1/2 but never worked on site. I do not know how that works but they do not know much about plumbing at all. They have done the same course I did and I am wondering how that works because when they pass the acs exam Theorie and practical they are allowed to work on gas appliances. But they do not seem to have any experience neither knowledge about simple things.

I think it's a good thing to do a pre check you to see if you got basic knowledge.
 

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Unfortunately it would seem that some test centres are becoming like sausage factories for GSR's where the most important criteria is knowing your PIN number... I feel that standards are slipping... i was doing a commercial renewal in 2010 and found that half the people in the class were on initials . when it came to practical assessments it was almost group effort... there were people on that course who were not really at the standard they should be... it's rather disheartening :(
 

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Unfortunately it would seem that some test centres are becoming like sausage factories for GSR's where the most important criteria is knowing your PIN number... I feel that standards are slipping... i was doing a commercial renewal in 2010 and found that half the people in the class were on initials . when it came to practical assessments it was almost group effort... there were people on that course who were not really at the standard they should be... it's rather disheartening :(
You get this in a training centres though mate. Unfortunately they let people slip through the net that shouldn't be anywhere near gas or gas appliances. I did a fast track course many years ago when I left the forces. You need to approach the fast track in a way that once you have passed your ACS you will effectively still know absolutely nothing. You have to go into it with your eyes open and willing to learn and hope that one of older apprentice trained lads is willing to show you the ropes and take you under his wing once you have passed. Not all of them are, as some believe you have cheated by taking a quicker route. Which In theory is correct. If you are working with your dad you will automatically have a greater understanding of things compared to other trainees. You will do fine.
 

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Unfortunately it would seem that some test centres are becoming like sausage factories for GSR's where the most important criteria is knowing your PIN number... I feel that standards are slipping... i was doing a commercial renewal in 2010 and found that half the people in the class were on initials . when it came to practical assessments it was almost group effort... there were people on that course who were not really at the standard they should be... it's rather disheartening :(
This happened to me. It's not a usual situation as I do not practice any form of gas work whatsoever as I am a Community College technician on our Apprenticeship Scheme. I did a 5 year "traditional" apprenticeship before this and fully qualified to level 3, got my G3 card separately as unvented was covered on the course but no card issued at the time) I also did my OFTEC (now expired to be renewed this year, again I am no longer practicing oil work in the field).

The tutors wanted me to go on a gas course simply to increase my knowledge as there was never any intention to register me. I turned up expecting to learn a lot and it turns out it was a renewal course not the initials. I learned next to nothing and was left rather disappointed. On this course were a couple of guys who were expected to go out and do gas work after rushing through this course. The standards are most clearly slipping, in my mind at least. I wouldn't touch gas with an earth-bonded barge pole even if they had registered me. I just don't have the knowledge, confidence or experience to do that. Not good!
 
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Henry mote

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Given the above , don't worry about the questions, you should sail through them
Great. Thanks pal!
I am doing right now my acs and have passed my Theorie exams not long ago. I didn't have to prove anything to anyone. Somehow, I had other people in my course they just had done their nvq-1/2 but never worked on site. I do not know how that works but they do not know much about plumbing at all. They have done the same course I did and I am wondering how that works because when they pass the acs exam Theorie and practical they are allowed to work on gas appliances. But they do not seem to have any experience neither knowledge about simple things.

I think it's a good thing to do a pre check you to see if you got basic knowledge.
 
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Henry mote

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You get this in a training centres though mate. Unfortunately they let people slip through the net that shouldn't be anywhere near gas or gas appliances. I did a fast track course many years ago when I left the forces. You need to approach the fast track in a way that once you have passed your ACS you will effectively still know absolutely nothing. You have to go into it with your eyes open and willing to learn and hope that one of older apprentice trained lads is willing to show you the ropes and take you under his wing once you have passed. Not all of them are, as some believe you have cheated by taking a quicker route. Which In theory is correct. If you are working with your dad you will automatically have a greater understanding of things compared to other trainees. You will do fine.
Great thanks for the insight mate. Yes I'm not treating like I'll know anything once I've finished the course. I just see it as proof that I have the ability to learn it following the course. I won't be let loose after the course that's for sure - my dad is pretty by the book
 
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