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Steve2178

Can you add some more pictures please ?? of what is connected and internally. Kop
Can’t see the pipe internally as it’s behind a fitted toilet with the cabinet thing at the back. But that’s all it is. Two toilets. One upstairs one downstairs.
Both plumbers I’ve seen havnt even bothered looking inside
 
Aquarius

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That was my thought. He mentioned something about pressure building up in pipe and causing downstairs toilet to be effected somehow by it?
He might have been trying to say it could pull the trap, but usually happens when there’s a blockage, or if they’re installed in a way against building regulations document H, one example being crossflow connections. I live in a newly built property (2010) and I have 2 toilets connected, albeit on the same level. Just reviewed the photo, does the new stack discharge into a gulley? - this might be the problem.
 
Pickwickpick

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Sounds like the plumber is concerned about pulling the trap, but even if the new branch is going to be over 6m it can be dealt with by using an internal aav or venting to air so shouldn't be an issue.

@Steve2178 you mention a second plumber, did he also think it was not feasible?
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so if I go ahead and use a different plumber who said he’d do it no problem he ain’t a cowboy? I won’t have issues with downstairs toilet?
WHat length is the branch going to be from the toilet to the pvc soil stack? Also just to confirm, that black pvc soil stack it connected directly to the underground drain and doesn't discharge into a gully?
 
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Sounds like the plumber is concerned about pulling the trap, but even if the new branch is going to be over 6m it can be dealt with by using an internal aav or venting to air so shouldn't be an issue.

@Steve2178 you mention a second plumber, did he also think it was not feasible?
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WHat length is the branch going to be from the toilet to the pvc soil stack? Also just to confirm, that black pvc soil stack it connected directly to the underground drain and doesn't discharge into a gully?
second plumber didn’t mention an issue at all he said he would do it no issue
The branch would be around 3-3.5m from the stack.

the stack goes into the ground then a clay pipe to an old brick/half clay manhole
 
Pickwickpick

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second plumber didn’t mention an issue at all he said he would do it no issue
The branch would be around 3-3.5m from the stack.

the stack goes into the ground then a clay pipe to an old brick/half clay manhole
I'd be inclined to agree with 2nd plumber then, you are no where near the limit where there can be an issue with traps.
 
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Steve2178

I'd be inclined to agree with 2nd plumber then, you are no where near the limit where there can be an issue with traps.
Well both plumbers have not got back to me with a quote yet anyway and it’s been 4 days and I’ve chased them once...

I tried 12 different phone numbers on google 4 days ago and only these 2 answered their phones so gonna have to try and ring around again and hope someone answers
 
Pickwickpick

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Well both plumbers have not got back to me with a quote yet anyway and it’s been 4 days and I’ve chased them once...

I tried 12 different phone numbers on google 4 days ago and only these 2 answered their phones so gonna have to try and ring around again and hope someone answers
Things have got quite manic work wise, think all the work that was delayed during lockdown is being done at once.
 
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Things have got quite manic work wise, think all the work that was delayed during lockdown is being done at once.
there’s a crack in the bottom of the cast iron pipe that’s spewing out Rubbish a bit at a time... it’s not too bad but it’s starting to build up so ideally want it sorting as soon as I can.
Based on the description would you be able to tell me the ball park I’d be looking at to do this work?
Cheers
 
Pickwickpick

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There is so much variation in rates across the country that its really not that feasible for us to give prices on here, also not having actually come out an checked it out there could be various issues that will increase of decrease the difficulty of the job that I'm not aware of. Would say I'd expect it to be in the region of 0.5-1day of labour, but don't forget the big caveat that a plumber quoting in person might be aware of things I'm not.
 
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Any plumber on here from Middlesbrough? I’m struggling to get anywhere with plumbers on google
 

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