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Hi all!! Deperately in need of some help from someone in the know. I have recently had my whole house refurbished and put a roman/ tiled bath on the first floor. It has been nothing but grief. Everyone is pointing fingers but I need a solution. The area has been tanked twice but it's still leaking. They now think it's because they dont have the correct waste system. Wet room wastes dont come with plugs so what can I buy to rectify this situation? They are now talking about getting a waste and gully fabricated to do the job but surely there must be something we can buy. This isn't the first roman bath ever made!!
 
Hi all!! Deperately in need of some help from someone in the know. I have recently had my whole house refurbished and put a roman/ tiled bath on the first floor. It has been nothing but grief. Everyone is pointing fingers but I need a solution. The area has been tanked twice but it's still leaking. They now think it's because they dont have the correct waste system. Wet room wastes dont come with plugs so what can I buy to rectify this situation? They are now talking about getting a waste and gully fabricated to do the job but surely there must be something we can buy. This isn't the first roman bath ever made!!
Any pictures?
 
Hi all!! Deperately in need of some help from someone in the know. I have recently had my whole house refurbished and put a roman/ tiled bath on the first floor. It has been nothing but grief. Everyone is pointing fingers but I need a solution. The area has been tanked twice but it's still leaking. They now think it's because they dont have the correct waste system. Wet room wastes dont come with plugs so what can I buy to rectify this situation? They are now talking about getting a waste and gully fabricated to do the job but surely there must be something we can buy. This isn't the first roman bath ever made!!
Pictures and drawings is the way fwds on UKPF ..then we can all have a look and help you. I have in fact been in the Roman Bath many years ago in Bath with my now ex Mrs it was fun but we must move on
Rob Foster aka centralheatking
 
Very funny everyone!! Its just a fancy name for a tiled bath!!:rolleyes:

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In all seriousness, where is it leaking?

It’s just like doing a wetroom to be honest so really not a problem - please tell me it’s not a ‘builder’ job?

Do you have membrane tanking or paint on?
 
In all seriousness, where is it leaking?

It’s just like doing a wetroom to be honest so really not a problem - please tell me it’s not a ‘builder’ job?

Do you have membrane tanking or paint on?

Its paint on tanking. Between the plumber and the tile guys, they can't seem to figure it out. Apparently, all of the wastes that are for wet rooms are not designed to have a plug, fair enough but there are loads of people who have these kinds of baths so there must be a waste made for this purpose surely??
 
Its paint on tanking. Between the plumber and the tile guys, they can't seem to figure it out. Apparently, all of the wastes that are for wet rooms are not designed to have a plug, fair enough but there are loads of people who have these kinds of baths so there must be a waste made for this purpose surely??
They kept on thinking it was leaking through the tiles and after a couple to tries of re-applying the tanking, the leak has got worse. It cant be the tiles though because i've filled the bath up with numerous buckets of water with the plug in and it hasnt leaked. it only leaks when it is draining.
 
That waste does look wrong, almost like a basic kitchen sink waste, an unslotted belfast sink waste might be better. It has a larger flange on the surface touching the tiles. Can you get access underneath?
 
I’ve already suggested Belfast waste.

If they can’t figure it out, remove section of ceiling below and it will become obvious.

Might be time to get new plumber and tile guys......
 
That waste does look wrong, almost like a basic kitchen sink waste, an unslotted belfast sink waste might be better. It has a larger flange on the surface touching the tiles. Can you get access underneath?
Yes from the utility room underneath
I’ve already suggested Belfast waste.

If they can’t figure it out, remove section of ceiling below and it will become obvious.

Might be time to get new plumber and tile guys....
I ended up taking a multi-tool and cutting out the ceiling myself because they just kept on skirting around the problem, guessing when they could've had a proper look instead

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What's the construction of the floor under the bath like, was it re-enforced, is it just a single layer of chipboard?

It could be that the whole tiled floor area is moving under the weight of water (and occupant(s) ) and opening up a leak.
 
What's the construction of the floor under the bath like, was it re-enforced, is it just a single layer of chipboard?

It could be that the whole tiled floor area is moving under the weight of water (and occupant(s) ) and opening up a leak.
it has three RSJ's holding it up and it was constructed with block and brick. Weight was definitely factored in.
 
Can you see the bottom of the waste system from your hole if so add a pic
 
Can you cut a bit more of the ceiling out to gain access?
 
That is NOT a suitable waste for that situation. End of.

Who did you pay to set it working?

Regardless, might I suggest you write to them to give them 14 days to resolve the problem to your permanent satisfaction. Take advice but in that letter you can say if it not resolved to your perm satisfaction then you will call in other trades people to remove what has been installed and redo it so it is done properly. At that point you will be taking them to court to recover both costs and an additional sum for inconvenience.

Basically, stop bu66ering about with them. In my opinion, the 'fault' is with the plumber not the tiler. The plumber should have supplied an appropriate waste designed for this situation. If they had done so then the tiles would have less of an issue.

In my opinion, the tiles need to be removed around the waste inside the tub too.
 
That is NOT a suitable waste for that situation. End of.

Who did you pay to set it working?

Regardless, might I suggest you write to them to give them 14 days to resolve the problem to your permanent satisfaction. Take advice but in that letter you can say if it not resolved to your perm satisfaction then you will call in other trades people to remove what has been installed and redo it so it is done properly. At that point you will be taking them to court to recover both costs and an additional sum for inconvenience.

Basically, stop bu66ering about with them. In my opinion, the 'fault' is with the plumber not the tiler. The plumber should have supplied an appropriate waste designed for this situation. If they had done so then the tiles would have less of an issue.

In my opinion, the tiles need to be removed around the waste inside the tub too.
Thanks for the advice. I am too nice, so they are taking advantage but rest assured, I told the plumber today that I owe the main contractor £3000. If it isn't fixed, i'm using that money to get it redone and they can hash it out amoungst themselves.
 
Cbw, they need it to plug for a bath - not be free running like a shower.

I agree on sources of leaking, but in addition in this case you need to add the tanking as a leak source. The treatment around the outlet is critical and in my opinion is more reliable with a membrane than with paint on tanking.

Although I assume they have at least used a piece of membrane around the waste outlet, which is then overprinted with tanking solution - please say they did......

This is a fairly specialist area and not a ‘have a go’ job.....
 

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